Well the guy with the ws6 knows they are the same, and the ss as well. The gto guy is still kinda stuck on factory ratings, but hopefully I can help him get away from that. I'm gonna take mine to the dyno after I get my full exhaust put on in 2 weeks. I'm shooting for 340whp, which would translate to about 420 at the crank and there is no way my bolt-ons are going to add 110hp at the crank. We will just have to see.

 

What does the GTO guy have to say about the factory weight ratings?

 

He knows it's heavy. I tried to explain to him that if we want to compare power ratings, his car should have about 20-30hp on me, but his car also out weighs mine by 200-300lbs. He thinks that my car shouldn't really dyno over 275hp stock and maybe close to 290 right now with just a lid, maf, and p&p tb and chokemaster.

I've been friends with this guy for a long time, and he is one of my best friends, but I am just so fed up with having the same arguement, so I think i'm gonna stop and let my car do the talking for me.

 

Your friend is a idiot lol, I fricken dynoed 330 and all I have is a fricken exhaust with headers. I'm untunned and that was a mustang dyno.. oh and im at 1998 with the blah heads. If a stock fbody went against a stock ls2 gto he would beat you but not by much, if you were around say 330-350rwhp then you should take him but it wont be by much, maybe a car to 2 cars. They're not hard cars to beat though.

 

Nahh, he's defnitely not an idiot, just mis-informed like so many others.

 

I was rated at 310 factory. With a lid and a hooker catback I made 340 rwhp. That rating is bogus.

 

Yep, and then post the kill in the Street Racing Kill Section

 

EVERYONE knows that a ws6 or SS hood adds like atleast 50hp

i dyno'ed 310hp-330tq to the wheels with just a cat back, please tell your friends to become members of LS1tech so they will no longer be "misinformed"

 

one time...i put an ss hood on a 6 banger and when i took off at a red light the car actually got airborn because of the added horse power!!! dont underestimate a visually pleasing hood over one with no scoop!!!

 

Do you have a larger picture of this by any chance?

 

I got one

 

was the 98 vette a c5? and what years are comparable to the vette they tested?

 

A 98 is a C5, I think its funny the vette put down less RWHP than the firebird

 

`97-`04 = C5 and LS1 powered
LS6 powered ZO6's are a different story.

 

so engine wise and hp wise the camaro and trans ams are faster/more hp than c5 vettes minus the zo6? thats not too bad

 

Don't read too much into dyno numbers, Dyno's are tools for tuning nothing more.
In reality all LS1's are the same regardless what vehicle they were installed in.
The Vettes have a better power to weight ratio vs an F-body so it's really a drivers race.

 

right...i understand that but strictly numbers wise i can tell people the vette is slower lol

 

Actually it doesn't work like that !
Like I said the Vettes have a slight weight advantage which evens out the possible differences in RWHP.
In a Dragrace between somewhat equal cars the more powerfull car is NOT always the winner. Experience has it's merits.

 

i understand that as well...i mean to breifly explain to someone that know very little about this sort of thing would it not just be easier to say our cars are at the least equal to vettes? without going into great detail....people as me how fast mine is and i think that would be an easy explanation...

 

you do know that stock vs stock, a c5 t56 will eat any stock ss or ws6. Same driver in both.

Check this: my 04 z06 makes 380whp. headers only. It walks on 400-430 whp cam only fbodies all day.