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Old 09-15-2009, 12:03 PM
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Okay this kinda of got off track:
I understand honda motors (turbo, super, N/A) make peak horsepower at a much higher RPM (ie 7500+).
Which makes it hard to make a "decent" torque level.

"Little engines need to rev higher to make more power"

That statement is not totally accurate because referring back to the 1.8t that makes great torque. Why? Because the horsepower is made at a lower RPM.

What causes the horsepower to be made at a higher RPM for hondas? Seems like its hard or impossible to reverse this effect.
Ask that question backwards, what cause the 1.8t to make hp at a lower RPM?

It has to be something with the design of the motor, but what...?
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damn imporgs..
Old 09-15-2009, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordon0652
It has to be something with the design of the motor, but what...?
Compression Ratio, Bore/Stroke combination, Cam setup, Valve Sizes..

Which part of the design do you want?
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Originally Posted by PUNISHER TA
No, you dont use the REDLINE. you use the point(RPM) where you make the most power.











I really dont feel like rambling... I need to get to bed.


But its things like these that are my PET PEEVES.



People are do ******* stereotypical and think they know everything when really they are ignorant!!!!
and you should read what I said again, If they make the same torque at different rpms, the one at the higher rpm will be making more power. you should stop calling people ignorant when you admit to being drunk .
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Compression Ratio, Bore/Stroke combination, Cam setup, Valve Sizes..

Which part of the design do you want?
Originally Posted by Gordon0652
It has to be something with the design of the motor, but what...?
Its still math, but im not that good yet.

Pat G would probably be the best person to have in this conversation.

Someone who completely understands flow... and all that jazz
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Originally Posted by 406malibu
and you should read what I said again, If they make the same torque at different rpms, the one at the higher rpm will be making more power. you should stop calling people ignorant when you admit to being drunk .
I was just trying to help people understand the math portion of it. but apparently thats not where this thread was aimed, so i apologize.

and like i said above, i dont understand the rest of it. but i have been thinking about it. but im still....
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Yea Pat G would be a good one to discuss this with..I'm sure he would have alot of info.


It's not that hard to figure out though when you think about it and compare different setups..
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"That statement is not totally accurate because referring back to the 1.8t that makes great torque. Why? Because the horsepower is made at a lower RPM."

ugh.. thats backward thinking... you get horsepower from torque and rpm.. theres no horsepowerometer hahahah.... its a mathmatical equation. nothing more!

stop thinking about horsepower.... its not about horsepower. your car makes torque!.... horsepower is just your cars peak power and the rpm that happens at...

lets see. what makes torque. air+fuel= torque. the more of those two you can get, the more power. basically..... i dont wanna get too in depth, this is a simple subject and for some reason people are still confused.....
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Originally Posted by t/a98
this is a simple subject and for some reason people are still confused.....
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Originally Posted by Cyris0014
In the honda thread he stated that the shorter gearing of the s2000 helps for the lack of tq down low, while the mustang makes the tq down low but has taller gearing. What happens when you put shorter gears in the stang with good tq?
you still have a slow car....
had to do it sorry




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