I went with the WS6. My next car will be C6Z06.

 

Are you blind or just have problems with reading comprehension? The guy is simply stating that an fbody with a bit of suspension work is comparable to a stock vette. That's it. Nothing further.

He is not saying an fbody is a better car.
He is not saying sell your vette.
He is, in fact, saying the vette is a better car.
He is not telling you to go buy an fbody and mod it.

He is simply responding to the fact that you said something about your friend's fbody's handling capabilities when it is not set up to be a road course car.

"Please read carefully, I never even implied that you should get rid of your Corvette at all, a Corvette is a step UP from an fbody, its an all around much better car and I will be getting a C5 or C6 in the future."

comprende?

 

LOL. I think everyone here sees this the exact same way except for bigbadjon. Honestly I'm not sure he even bothered to read the stuff JD_AMG posted, because his responses are totally off the wall.

Oh well.

 

I'm in the same boat as the OP trying to decide between these 3 but with the way the c6 market the way it is, by the end of the year you will probably be able to get a pretty nice c6 for under $20k so that may be what I do instead.

 

vette dude for sure you get what u pay for

 

I don't understand your point. Ok so you can stick $2500 bucks into an F-body and it will handle like a stock C5 corvette. Maybe thats true, why would you want too? I have an F-body I wouldn't, I'd stick that money in the motor. The F-body is a muscle car most people don't buy them to upgrade the suspension so they will handle well on a road course. If anybody sticks any money into them for suspenion, its to get them to hook which is a totally different ball game. Even if you got the F-body to handle like a stock vette you still have a problem with weight distribution so I would still give the edge to the vette. You said if the vette has suspenion mods than all bets are off right? Well guess what, in this case all bets are off if its has a Z-51 suspenion package. This is an upgraded suspension from the factory. This thread started off with which would you buy? Not what can I buy that can be later modded to be as good as something else that already came that way stock.

I don't think you were suggesting that bigbadjon get rid of his vette and I don't believe he took it that way either. The point that got missed here was this. A $2500 suspension upgrade is not needed if you spend a little more money up front.

I liken this argument to honda owners who say they can be just as fast as an F-body if they spend a bunch of money. Why not just buy the F-body and be done with it.

 

I think you misread, you can spend well under $2000 and get your Fbody to outhandle a stock C5, and with sticky tires hang with a modified Z06. This isn't just some little handling upgrade, its a HUGE difference.

Why would you want to? Maybe because some people find just strait line racing boring, and would rather have a "all around car"? Whats the point of being able to go fast, but once you reach some good speed the car is unstable and not connected (if you have drag suspension for example).
Personally I would rather be able to hook up AND turn AND brake then just be able to go quick in a strait line for 12 seconds or quicker.

Not quite. Honda owners are spending way more money, and sacrificing way more (drive ability and possibly reliability) to get there.

 

I had the option to buy a FRC vetter but chose the WS6 and I am glad I did really. I just like the way it drives better, the vette just seems too small to me which I know is better but I like the feel of a bigger car. So WS6 FTW

 

anyone who hasn't driven a properly set up 4th gen fbody (koni's, sways&sticky tires) will never realize the potential these cars have. It's nite&day from the stock hardware. It is NOT just a straightline car.

I purchased my formula 2 years ago because it is rarely seen, its NOT a C5 corvette, which are still all over the place around here, &it was a relative bargain. With the purchase price & the mods ive done, I have yet to surpass $20k spent. When i was shopping, i could not find a c5 with comparable (30k) miles for under $20k. The choice i made was quite simple from a value standpoint imo.

That being said, i still hope to have a c5z in addition to my fbody. A zo6 is the only c5 i'd consider purchasing. From the looking around i've done recently, a low mile Z is hovering over 20grand, which is also a bargain for what you are getting right out of the box. Stock for stock, a c5z is a superior car all around when compared to the 4th gens.

 

Well I tell you what bro I'd like to take a look at that formula of yours. How about some specifics? What exactly are you buying for your F-body to outhandle the C5 and still able to keep the price WELL below $2k.
And while your at it don't forget about the brakes.

 

Ummm....

Koni's (from $750-850): Best shocks you can get pretty much. 4/3's are fine but it's harder to adjust.

Strano sways $390: 35/21mm sway bars. Great hardware, plus not that much more weight than stock

Beyond this, you can add LCA's, LCA RB's, PHB, and different springs (not necessary) all to get it a little better. So here you go, here's about $1140 with shocks/sways. That's MORE than enough money to get some Hawk HPS/new fluid for your brakes. Add in the LCA's, PHB, RB's, springs if you want and expect more improvement.

 

That sounds great, unfortunatley you too forgot the brakes. Let me ask you two something. If we were setting our cars up for 1/4 mile racing would you invest in suspension and thats it? Hell NO. You need to upgrade the rear end, gears and invest in some slicks if you're serious. Anything less and your suspension mod ain't gonna help you much if the car doesn't hook.

Now here we are talking about an F-body competing, im sorry "outhandle a stock C5, and with sticky tires hang with a modified Z06." Are you two seriously implying that a $1140 suspension upgrade is gonna do all that and maybe a set of sticky tires? Assuming you have the power in the straitaways to hang with the Z06, how do you plan on stoping this beast in the turns when serious braking will be required. Stock brakes? Hell i've heated those up on the street to the point the car wouldn't stop. There ain't no way I would trust them on a road course without a serious brake upgrade. And brakes my friend can push you well past what your spending on suspension. So don't feed me this nickle and dime crap about how cheap it is to compete with a vette on a road course. I love my F-body but unlike some im not so delusional that I don't understand the money it would require to compete on that level. So it makes perfect sense to me why someone would buy the C5 instead of an F-body and upgrading it.

 

Absolutely no problem.
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...D=90&ModelID=7

Brakes are not handling, but this will get you there with the right tires:
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...D=90&ModelID=7

Check out my earlier post and go to the links.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/12804451-post48.html
BTW we're not talking about road course but rather auto-x.
Im pretty sure it does to everyone else as well, as I said I plan to buy a C5 Z06 in the future, its an all around better car.

 

Ummm what happened to the OP???

 

haha yeah to the OP, I considered all 3 mentioned cars at some point before purchasing my formula. I did my research and based my decision on reliability, simplicity, mod $ cost &ultimately what i deemed MY personal best fit. For street/DD use, 4th gen LS1 f-body was the best choice IMO.

O and u can fit 4 if you absolutley needed too

 

&with the mods in sig. my car felt perfectly stable&confident at 145mph. I would not have hesitated bringing it to top speed (155mph i think) had highway conditions permitted

 

FWIW, I had my stripper 2000 Z28 decked out with Strano Bilstiens/springs, tubular sways, upgraded bushings, sticky 275/17s...the whole nine. It handled light-years better than factory and would surprise just about anyone.
However, my stock-suspended C5Z makes it feel like, well, a Buick.

 

that is some funny ****!

 

You didn't relay mention what your future plans are with the car. Do you plan to mod it? Leave it bone stock? If you do plan to mod a Vette make sure you have A LOT of cash saved up, because shops charge you an arm and a leg to work on them. And god forbid something breaks on it. If you have the money to back it up, go with a Vette. If you plan to leave it stock and just cruise, then thats fine as well. If you want to do modify a LS1 type car for cheap and go fast, can't go wrong with another F-body.

I dont believe that for a second. I was trying to sell a real clean supercharged 2000 Z06, paper work of all the mods,over 20k worth of receipts to show what the car had in it, dyno sheets that it made 612rwhp, and I couldn't give the car away at 19k.
I do like GTOs, and wouldn't mind one for a daily cruiser car.

 

Dont knock the c5's interior, its pretty comfy leather. Yes ive driven one and it was a road trip for about 4 hours. IMO if you can sit in a car for 4 hours straight its good enough. Then again people complain about a camaros interior and it dosent bother me at all.

Like stated before, if your like me...you wont use the backseat. All i put in the back is....i cant even think of anything i have ever put in the back...besides thats what the trunk is for. It also elimates people from asking for rides, i always get asked for rides and its a pain hauling people around in your toy.

The c5 will be faster then the gto. camaros and trans ams are an even race for a 6.0 so same motor lighter car ityll be faster.

I love the way trans ams look, and the gto kinda had to grow on me but c5's are just a classy car. I hate the look people give me when i say i own a camaro...most dont even know what the fbodies look like they always assume its the newer one. So when your able to say i drive a vette, people just naturally wanna hop on the end of your tip.

So looks id say t/a, speed and looks vette, comfort gto.