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12-27-2010, 12:54 PM
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Obviously he hasen't been in the game all that long if he's in the dark about the differences between the two. The T/A's extra weight makes it less bumpy/less rattles, more comfortable ride. I have driven each car and hands down the T/A feels more stout and IMO more fun to drive. Here's where the extra weight comes from and HOW they differ.
Larger constructed Seats
Interior door panels
Stereo
More internal wiring
Larger rear wing & hatch
Larger constructed Seats
Interior door panels
Stereo
More internal wiring
Larger rear wing & hatch
There isn't a flag big enough for these two posts.Now, allow me to bring YOU TWO out of the dark....
I've owned both an LS1 Camaro and an LS1 WS6 Trans Am brand new. That removes the factor of mileage and age differences causing unequally worn suspension or rattling interiors.
Now let's address the various points you've mentioned:
Interior for starters is a lot more solid and comfortable...
The T/A's extra weight makes it less bumpy/less rattles, more comfortable ride.
Enough said.
I have driven each car and hands down the T/A feels more stout and IMO more fun to drive
Here's where the extra weight comes from and HOW they differ.
Larger constructed Seats
Interior door panels
Stereo
More internal wiring
Larger rear wing & hatch
Larger constructed Seats
Interior door panels
Stereo
More internal wiring
Larger rear wing & hatch
Both cars use the Monsoon system as their premium stereo, only the front speakers are wired a bit different.
Larger hatch?
The spoiler is taller, yes. Again, I've owned (not just driven) both from brand new, and when they are both equipped with the same size wheels & tires (compare 17" WS6 to SS, or 16" Trans Am to Z28) neither feels more solid or fun than the other. You might be able to fool people that don't know any better, but I am here to set the record straight.
Obviously he hasen't been in the game all that long if he's in the dark about the differences between the two.
How long have you been "in the game"?
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12-27-2010, 01:19 PM
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I agree with the others, don't rush your decision. If you want an M6 then wait for one to come along. I settled for the A4 (and even though its stalled) I still regret not getting an M6 car.
12-27-2010, 01:39 PM
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What a bunch of BS. There isn't a flag big enough for these two posts.
Now, allow me to bring YOU TWO out of the dark....
I've owned both an LS1 Camaro and an LS1 WS6 Trans Am brand new. That removes the factor of mileage and age differences causing unequally worn suspension or rattling interiors.
Now let's address the various points you've mentioned:
More solid interior? The basic construction and material quality is the same, only difference in perceived comfort/support would be the seats, if the T/A has the optional lumbar support seats (RPO AQ9). Other than the seats, the interior differences are mostly cosmetic, and if anything I'd say that all the extra hard plastic on the Trans Am door panels and seat backs (for the AQ9 seats) feels more flimsy.
Less rattles because of 100lbs more weight? Enough said.
You've driven them both when they were new? Or at least two used ones of the same age and mileage with all stock parts? I doubt that, otherwise you wouldn't have made such an ignorant statement.
Some people find the T/A seats more comfortable, that's the only vaild arguement you have. The interior door panels actually have more hard plastic on the Trans Am and tend to crack, where the Camaro does not.
Both cars use the Monsoon system as their premium stereo, only the front speakers are wired a bit different.
Larger hatch? The spoiler is taller, yes.
Again, I've owned (not just driven) both from brand new, and when they are both equipped with the same size wheels & tires (compare 17" WS6 to SS, or 16" Trans Am to Z28) neither feels more solid or fun than the other. You might be able to fool people that don't know any better, but I am here to set the record straight.
I've owned four LS1 F-bodies, and had one or two at almost any given moment over the last 11+ years; including new and used, Camaro and Trans Am.
How long have you been "in the game"?
There isn't a flag big enough for these two posts.Now, allow me to bring YOU TWO out of the dark....
I've owned both an LS1 Camaro and an LS1 WS6 Trans Am brand new. That removes the factor of mileage and age differences causing unequally worn suspension or rattling interiors.
Now let's address the various points you've mentioned:
More solid interior? The basic construction and material quality is the same, only difference in perceived comfort/support would be the seats, if the T/A has the optional lumbar support seats (RPO AQ9). Other than the seats, the interior differences are mostly cosmetic, and if anything I'd say that all the extra hard plastic on the Trans Am door panels and seat backs (for the AQ9 seats) feels more flimsy.
Less rattles because of 100lbs more weight?
Enough said.You've driven them both when they were new? Or at least two used ones of the same age and mileage with all stock parts? I doubt that, otherwise you wouldn't have made such an ignorant statement.
Some people find the T/A seats more comfortable, that's the only vaild arguement you have. The interior door panels actually have more hard plastic on the Trans Am and tend to crack, where the Camaro does not.
Both cars use the Monsoon system as their premium stereo, only the front speakers are wired a bit different.
Larger hatch?
The spoiler is taller, yes. Again, I've owned (not just driven) both from brand new, and when they are both equipped with the same size wheels & tires (compare 17" WS6 to SS, or 16" Trans Am to Z28) neither feels more solid or fun than the other. You might be able to fool people that don't know any better, but I am here to set the record straight.
I've owned four LS1 F-bodies, and had one or two at almost any given moment over the last 11+ years; including new and used, Camaro and Trans Am.
How long have you been "in the game"?
Thank the lord for your infinite wisdom.
12-27-2010, 02:23 PM
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didnt mean to turn this into a pissing match lol...
so i guess ill wait for an m6 trans am, ws6 or not. as long as its a m6 T/A...ill b happy. And the fact that im ok with getting a 98 now helps alot cuz ive seen a few of them for really good prices..now i just gotta save a little more...a month of working every weekend should do it
so i guess ill wait for an m6 trans am, ws6 or not. as long as its a m6 T/A...ill b happy. And the fact that im ok with getting a 98 now helps alot cuz ive seen a few of them for really good prices..now i just gotta save a little more...a month of working every weekend should do it
12-27-2010, 02:45 PM
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Buy what you think you will be the most happy with in the long run. Both have the same hp/handling/ride/performance potential AND limitations. They are the same platform. Any subtle differences, if any, would be have vanished due to the age of the oe stuff. I've heard that the TA seats are more comfortable than the SS seats- they def look more comfortable and supportive. I ordered my SS new and did not consider the Pontiac version solely because of the styling. I thought (and still do) that the TA is a bit over styled, esp the rear end. Yes the TA looks sinister/mean/fast etc, it was and still is a PERSONAL preference. The TA guys prolly think the SS is too tame/soft/subtle looking and I see their point. Performance wise, the two cars are identical. Now that being said, I do like the Firehawk styling and seats...
12-27-2010, 02:53 PM
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Yeah man don't settle. If you're working hard for your dream then don't come up short. It's like they say "good things come to those who wait." As far as what everyone is saying about the difference between the camaro and trans am it's a matter of personal preference. I have also owned both and I prefer my T/A lol. It looks better and feels better mostly just because my camaro was cloth and the T/A is leather ha ha. Performance wise though they feel the same.
12-27-2010, 03:02 PM
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this thread helped me alot . Yea i prefer the T/A over the camaro. And everyone has a camaro....i hardly see trans ams around where i live. so, now my waiting game starts 
good way to look at it is the longer i wait the more money ill save then i can get a better car
. Yea i prefer the T/A over the camaro. And everyone has a camaro....i hardly see trans ams around where i live. so, now my waiting game starts good way to look at it is the longer i wait the more money ill save then i can get a better car
12-27-2010, 03:08 PM
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12-27-2010, 03:15 PM
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It's all a subjective opinion thing, and nobody should ever buy/not buy a particular car based on other peoples' opinion of styling.
One thing I really disliked about the Trans Am was the leather. F-body leather (Chevy or Pontiac) is not great quality and wears much more poorly than the cloth over time. I've always preferred the cloth, but cloth was not even an option in Trans Am starting in 1998.
12-27-2010, 03:19 PM
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I'm ignorant because the feel of my Trans Am is different then my past Z28? Funny thing is, my friends agree that my TA feels more stout then their Camaro's after driving and riding in it. It's not ignorance, it's called having experience. You can't tell another person that their personal experience is ignorance...that alone is ignorant which you seem to have plenty of.
12-27-2010, 03:20 PM
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And thank you for that RPM. I was laughing so hard reading his posts that my gut started to hurt.
Ignorance is bliss though... Now don't you feel bad for ruining that for him?
Back to the op:
Looks like you have the right idea now. Some patience will definitly get you exactly what you want.
Ignorance is bliss though... Now don't you feel bad for ruining that for him?
Back to the op:
Looks like you have the right idea now. Some patience will definitly get you exactly what you want.
12-27-2010, 03:36 PM
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02turk simply stated that the feel of his t/a felt more solid and handled smoother over his camaro...how does that make his statement ignorant? The interior of my friends t/a is way more comfortable then my camaro. So ease up guys. You didn't drive either of his set ups so who are you to say otherwise?
12-27-2010, 03:41 PM
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And thank you for that RPM. I was laughing so hard reading his posts that my gut started to hurt.
Ignorance is bliss though... Now don't you feel bad for ruining that for him?
Back to the op:
Looks like you have the right idea now. Some patience will definitly get you exactly what you want.
Ignorance is bliss though... Now don't you feel bad for ruining that for him?
Back to the op:
Looks like you have the right idea now. Some patience will definitly get you exactly what you want.
02turk simply stated that the feel of his t/a felt more solid and handled smoother over his camaro...how does that make his statement ignorant? The interior of my friends t/a is way more comfortable then my camaro. So ease up guys. You didn't drive either of his set ups so who are you to say otherwise?
12-27-2010, 03:41 PM
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). Under the skin, they are the same car. Anyone with the experience you claim to have would know this. 2) I have no idea what mods/suspension setup/wheels & tires their Camaros have.
3) I have no idea what sort of age/mileage their Camaros are.
All of these factors negate any meaningful comparasion of how both cars performed when they were new and stock (or how they would perform now if at the same age/wear/mod/option status)
Your ignorance comes from the fact you are claiming that Trans Ams in general feel more "solid/stout" based on a comparison of your modded car against Camaros of unknown age/mileage/mods/options. Your personal experience is not ignorant, but how you are applying it to this situation is.
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