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Old 02-14-2014, 01:15 AM
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Question Okay... I'm confused... Formula or Trans Am?!

so my buddy and I were talking about cars and my 4th Gen bird came up. I have a 98 LS1 Convertible. The reason I say LS1 is because I am now confused on whether or not it's a Trans Am or a Formula.

My bird in fully loaded and has the Trans Am bumper (with fog lights), but has the sleek beak. I was under the impression that the Formulas didn't come with the T/A fog light bumper so I assume my bird is a Trans Am, and I am pretty sure it's not the WS6 since I don't have the badges, but my buddy was saying that he thought all T/A came with ram air and because I have the sleek beak, I probably have the Formula.


So which is it?!
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Formula's do not have center fog lights like the TAs - they have fogs below the turn signals.

Yours is a TA without the WS6 package - it is that WS6 package that adds a "Ram Air" hood. I will bet your taillight panel also says "Trans Am" along with the lettering on your doors...BTW, you could get the WS6 package on a Formula just to muddle things up.
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Formula's do not have center fog lights like the TAs - they have fogs below the turn signals.

Yours is a TA without the WS6 package - it is that WS6 package that adds a "Ram Air" hood. I will bet your taillight panel also says "Trans Am" along with the lettering on your doors...BTW, you could get the WS6 package on a Formula just to muddle things up.
So all Trans Ams with Ram Air have the WS6 package? I thought the Trans Am came with the Sleek Beak, or the Ram Air w/o WS6, or Ram Air with WS6
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Originally Posted by RONIN LSX
So all Trans Ams with Ram Air have the WS6 package? I thought the Trans Am came with the Sleek Beak, or the Ram Air w/o WS6, or Ram Air with WS6
Nope.
If it has a "RamAir" hood from the factory its a WS6. To my knowledge there was never a "RamAir" option, only the WS6 option that included the hood, wheels, bigger front swaybar, raised air lid, different muffler, and slightly better shocks.
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Is your RPO sticker still on the drivers door?
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Originally Posted by RONIN LSX
So all Trans Ams with Ram Air have the WS6 package? I thought the Trans Am came with the Sleek Beak, or the Ram Air w/o WS6, or Ram Air with WS6
The WS6 and SS FACTORY equipped cars have the "ram air" air box to go with the hood.

Not all TA' are WS6. WS6 is an option that could be added to either the TA or Formula. However it wasn't offered for all years of the Formula and is nowhere near as common of an option as it was on the TA'.

The Formula VS TA debate is easily solved by looking at the RPO codes on the door.

Pontiac's are a bit harder for some to tell what they have because of all the different options and models. Camaro's are easy its either flat hood = Z28 or SS hood = SS assuming we are talking as it came STOCK.
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I'm pretty sure that there were no LS1 Formula convertibles, can anyone confirm this?

Also the Formula's fog lights are next to the turn signals, not below them. See my sig pic for a side by side comparison.
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There were indeed Formula convertibles

http://lair.evyl.org/1998-Firebird_P...on_Numbers.htm
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Okay then I was right. My bird is a T/A vert with a sleek beak. Thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by 99z28monster
There were indeed Formula convertibles

http://lair.evyl.org/1998-Firebird_P...on_Numbers.htm
Only 2 were made in Formula Vert trim?! Am I reading that right?

WOW, bright green is about as rare as the purple. I've seen the purple, but not the bright green.
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here is another breakdown. Better detail on this one.

http://www.transamworld.com/1998-breakdown.htm
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Originally Posted by RONIN LSX
Only 2 were made in Formula Vert trim?! Am I reading that right?

WOW, bright green is about as rare as the purple. I've seen the purple, but not the bright green.
No. That is just for 1998. I believe 98,99,00 were the only years the LS1 Formula was offered with the convertible option. I am not positive on this I have read conflicting information. Some places show only TWO LS1 convertibles being produced others have it with production numbers up to year 2000.

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Originally Posted by 99z28monster
here is another breakdown. Better detail on this one.

http://www.transamworld.com/1998-breakdown.htm
Nice info, bookmarked that!
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Originally Posted by 99z28monster
No. That is just for 1998.
Yeah, I know... A 98 Formula Vert is a unicorn.
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Originally Posted by RONIN LSX
Only 2 were made in Formula Vert trim?! Am I reading that right?
Which means it's perfectly fine for us to say they don't exist

While I'm not up on all the Firebird production figures, I'd wager that a T/A without WS6 is more rare than those with WS6. So, aside from your "sleek beak," you've got the same exhaust as a Formula and 16" wheels. Since it's a convertible, it won't have a high-rise wing, either.
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
Which means it's perfectly fine for us to say they don't exist

While I'm not up on all the Firebird production figures, I'd wager that a T/A without WS6 is more rare than those with WS6. So, aside from your "sleek beak," you've got the same exhaust as a Formula and 16" wheels. Since it's a convertible, it won't have a high-rise wing, either.
WOOHOO!!! I got a rare car!!! lol... J/K
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Well I'll say this... When looking for a new 98+ vert, I'm finding more sleek beaks than Ram Air so I guess in the end, there's not so rare, lol..
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Originally Posted by RONIN LSX
Yeah, I know... A 98 Formula Vert is a unicorn.
pretty sure I will see a unicorn before I see either of those two cars.
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Originally Posted by RONIN LSX
WOOHOO!!! I got a rare car!!! lol... J/K
LOL the whole 1 of XXX number can be very deceptive. Hell it could just mean someone ordered an awful looking interior color that few others did.
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Originally Posted by 99z28monster
pretty sure I will see a unicorn before I see either of those two cars.


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