Originally Posted by DarkCloud

and im with em on the 6 speed.. autos arent fun to drive.. i dont care how fast they are. it takes more skill to drive a stick on the track over an auto. in an auto u step and go.. not saying there isnt ne skill to an auto.. just a lot less is required.

Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed

I am not saying it is a horrible car but would you rather have a 'fast' NEON or a stock Camaro?

It is a status thing. People look at what you drive and the Neon's rep is an econo box.

The Camaro has RWD, wishbone suspension, and a big V8. Even if you can make a Neon, or whatever... marginally faster than a built Camaro why do it? You only can go fast for a couple of seconds at a time but you have to live with an inferior car for as long as you own it WHY??? Besides the fact that a built 4 cylinder is less reliable and driveable than a similar HP V8.

You can make a Civic faster than a Ferrari but who gives. The car is all around at a loss to the exotic in many other areas.

Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed

Sport compact guys all think they are the ****.

Originally Posted by su_maverick

SCC has always been biased and dont think for a minute that they like RX-7s.

Originally Posted by old and good

i feel envyous of you guys my best time is only 14.15 on a M6 LS1.... well my tranny is messed up but still i feel so sloooooowwww

Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17

The camaro might of had 273 gears instead of 323's which is why it ran slower, a A4 will put down less power but if driver right with those mods shoulda been into the 12's very easly

Originally Posted by old and good

normaly i get very high 9X mph's and when i got 14.15sec, trap speed was 102.
my 60' are about 2.3-2.4
and the funny thing is that i have LID and an exhaust

anything strange with these numbers?

Originally Posted by 12secSS

That was my 2001 Camaro SS. The 1/4 mile test was conducted on pit row of California Speedway, not a true drag race track. They had a professional driver driving all the cars, to even the playing field. I took video and pictures of the event, and you could clearly see that it was very difficult to launch the car. By the way, my car has 3.73 ... they made a typo. It also dynoed 332hp and 348tq. Elevation for this place was 1100' (DA was about 2500'). If you look at the lap times, mine kept up very well with the RX7 ... with a factory suspension. The driver they used for all the test was a road race driver, not very familiar with launching from a dead stop. Heck, my wife ran a 13.0 at 108 during this event, but they couldn't use those times due to it being a different driver. Any more questions, ask!

Originally Posted by Roarin_8

Get that 60' to 2.1 and you'll have your mid 13 second slip. Mph is a bit low but that can be the cause of your elevation if you have any. The car should trap at 108 with it having an exhaust, lid and it being a manual at sealevel.

Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage

a stock ls1 to a stock 4g63 or srt4 motor are all reliable and really strong stock..and put out the same amount of power stock block till you have to forge them.

the interior of our cars sucks(probably comparable to a econo box that cost 13k) and you saying that its a inferior car means nothing...its inferior to YOU..that does not make it a fact that its inferior to everyone. and who cares if its inferior? are you trying to make up for soemthing? a car is a car. I guess its a status thing..and YOU need people to think your of higher status.... keep on dreaming of that bigger *****.

The ls1 rx7 wasn't completely done(which makes me wonder why the decided to test them..i guess it was a deadline) the car needs mroe tuning...it only make 350ish whp(don't remember exact)..with a cam and maybe heads..don't remember, but you could tell by the power band that was going straight up and didn't start to flatten out yet that it had a lot more left. One car was a stripped out drift car(the 13bt-rew), the ls1 wasn't fully stripped out and only weighed 50lbs or so more. the rotary rx7 had sticker tires I believe too. both cars ran low 12s, but the trap speeds where high...116-118 if i remember correctly which suggests that they have mroe in them. SCC also tests in really hot shitty for quater mile time places.

also..the only reason why they refered to it as a bastard is because the rotary engine is completely unique..nothing like a piston engine..and when ever you rip out that POS for a different engine..with..gasp..PISTONS...the rotary community looks down on you for removing the "soul" of the fb, fc, or fd.



so because one douche thinks he is better than you...ALL of the people that drive sport compact cars think the same way?




http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...a_rx_7_part_9/

funny how a mag that doesn't liek a certain car would do a 10 part build up on one. Also, kind of funny how a biased sport compact car mag would PUT A 01 SS on the cover and test the car too.



I don't understand why everyone has to be..oh..my ls1 was touched by god, but as soon as a car threatens the performance...it turns into...well...he is driving a neon..or a focus..so his car is more inferior than mine....that si CALLED a ricer excuse. How come people can't just liek all types of cars. I've owned a sentra spec v, focus zx3, 91 rx7...and now i'm looking for a svt focus.

Originally Posted by pearlwhitemike

that article was dumb. a friend of mine made a big deal of how the rotary car beat it. he doesnt seem to understand that the ls1 fd was a piece of **** compared to the rotary car. a better comparison wouldve been two identically prepped fd's each with the same amount spend on the motor. you can do the whole ls1 swap for the cost of putting a fresh stock motor in the third gen rx7, and with that you get reliability and a much higher performance ceiling without sacrificing reliability. the fact that they compared them on a road course is stupid, because you can do the swap without gaining weight, and it doesnt really shift the weight forwards either, so isnt it still the same car as far as handling characteristics are concerned (other than feeding in power).

and of course the reason the camaro does better at drag racing is because thats what its good at...its a solid axle car with alot of weight over the rear, not to mention better tire fitment etc

this biased, ignorant writer on a deadline made a bs article that is sure to just boost the riceboy ego, most of which will never even set foot in a third gen rx7

and trust me im not biased, i've owned plenty of rx7 and japanese cars and do like the rotary engine but **** man, rip it out and put a v8 in there