300bhp/ton

Yeah WRC is nothing by comparison today. There's only 2 good drivers and the rest are in a league behind. Go back 5 years or so and it still pretty good. There where group A cars still and at one point some 7 world champs compeating at the same time.

But IMO the late 60's, 70's and early 80's where the best rally days Proper sideways action non stop

WS6 Rampage

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I guess it wouldn't be such a bad idea.

EVILWS6

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Wouldn't you have to put something like a dry sump oiling system on a F-body so it wouldn't starve the motor while drifting for long periods?

bob1esq

I am the purple drifter. I am the premier f body drifter in the u.s., and in the world. To drift an f-body, do the following: get the bmr drag race sway bar for the rear. fabricate your own very heavy sway bar for the front (I took a heavy bmr bar and cut 2 inches out of it and welded it back together). That's it. YOu now have a drift machine. To enhance it, you can put in a better posi, adjustable shocks and springs, adjustable a arms (set to 8 degrees positve caster), notch out the lower arms (to increase turning radius), modify your stering arms (shorten by one inch) to increase your turning radius (1 inch will increase it by a whopping 12 degrees!), the more low end torque, the better. If you do all these mods, you should be able to compete on the international level. The f-body is way, way better than any 240 sx or ae 86 could ever hope to be. It is drifting's biggest secret. I will be competing against japan in irwindale in december--see you there!

mikespeed95

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ugh, who are you? do you even have a d1/fd/topdrift liscence? you sure seem to have a big head.

any rwd car can drift. Fbodies work great, they are a little short in the steerign angle department but when your doing it for fun it works just fine.

glad to see some you guys going out there giving it a try and
HAVING SOME FUN!!
hope to see more ls1's out there sliding around at events.

12secss is that a justdrift at balcony? i think somone sent me pics of you sliding and i was like oh cool

evilws6, add a quart of oil and it will compensate for slosh. but with any type of road racing/auto-x/drift/fun stuff with corners, nothing beats a accusump or dry sump for bearing safety, but adding a quart should work out totally fine.

btw, here's a car i was known for piloting last year, followed by my own car i used this year. next year ill be in the ls13 again, as well as a new ls14 im building, or a 71 camaro, or possibly something cooler, but no matter what, it will have a lsx motor in it.

vid of myself and my freind derrick rogers ripping it up at formula d chicago last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chv6rF4cHuc

86 gmc caballero
vette ls1 with magnuson @4.5psi - 420rwhp/tq on mustang dyno
gay turbo350 auto tranny
off the shelf springs, stock replacement shocks, monte carlo ss swaybars, minispool in a GN rear end, and shortened steering arms. i finished 8th in formula d points and got rookie of the year in this car, you can have fun with a very simple setup.

otehr car was a 3rd gen firebird
all i remember was it had some sort of 427crate motor with like 700rwhp and no torque, a gforce 5 speed dogbox, and a lot of custom stuff on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsNq4uDeBHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYmM-_tINFc


thats my car

91 240sx
ls1 with magnuson
semi built t56 from t56rebuilds.com
welded stock 240sx diff
shortened steering spindles
k sport usa full catalog suspension

heres some other random fun videos with american drifting.

http://www.driftlive.com/dl/formula-...nedited-video/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jUUuSUWfGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNmA52XnYYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN3HZH_ZbWw

other cool drift cars


Rhys Millens Red Bull Racing factory backed Pontiac GTO
2005 Formula Drift Champion


vaughn gittin jr's falken mustang
sean hyland built blown 4v
2005 d1gp winner top 5 formula d driver


ken gushis factory backed ford mustang
retarted factory monstrocity 4v
blows off the rear 305 toyos about every 2 runs its retarted.


chris forseberg's nissan titan v8 powered 350z
its like a hot rod z convertible pretty sweet and hella wide


2004&2006 formula d champion sam hubinettes factory backed viper
pretty much a stock viper with suspension and steering mods.


todd ho's LS1 FC

theres some cool stuff out there. if you can get over the lame preconception ricer fad moniker that is stuck to drifting for some lame reason.

its fun. go have fun.

mikespeed95

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oh yah, if you wanna go drift, but dont know where to go, send me a pm and ill try to point you in the right direction

if you wanan watch some pro level drifting check out
www.formulad.com or www.nopidrift.com or www.d1gp.com

if any yall are gonna be in atlanta next weekend, i invite you to come check out www.driftfury.com

300bhp/ton

I think the preconceptions exist partly because of where drifting hails from but mostly because nearly all of the cars look horrid with stupid body kits and lurid paint.

Drifting = a total lack of class and styling.

If the cars looked decent instead of tastless I think more would be interested.

And its not the make/models either, as personally have nothing against any of the cars used, just the way they look.

Powersliding is

dailydriver

It does look like fun. I think it gets the "ricer fad moniker" because although it IS a competition, it is NOT a straight on heads-up RACE! It is judged, and just like gymnastics,diving and figure skating, that leaves too much room for bias, payoffs, favoritism, etc. The "winner" does not always seem so clear cut (as in a regular heads up or timed race). This is the problem I have with it as a spectator "sport". But it does seem to be loads of fun to participate in, and watch, regardless of who "wins".

12secSS

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Yes, that is my 2001 Camaro SS. Can you forward me the pics they sent you?

mikespeed95

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this is also judged


so is this



so is wakeboarding, CAR SHOWS, most popular/improved driver of the year awards, etc etc etc. its not racing, nobody (we are exluding idiot high school kids) said it was. its a judged competition of car control. just like freestyle motox, skateboarding, etc.

seriously, quit being a bunch of haters. if your too stubborn to have some damn fun then so be it. but seriously, how do you compare boiling the tires off a 400+rwhp car at 80mph inches off a wall completely sideways yet in control to some fruitcakes dancing on ice with blades that could totally make a cool bloody action movie with lots of death and destruction, and pants that should be on someone like jessica beil. seriously, apples to apples here.

btw, since you said all those cars look gay i guess the canards/bodykits/wing on these cars are equally as gay. and for the love of God look at the widebody, ewwww, and the stickers oh no!! ricer ALERT!

ChocoTaco369

did anyone else have flashbacks of arnold emerging through the blanket of dust after a huge explosion during this video?

PowerShift408

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I've always wondered why they put those gigantic wings on drift cars... How much downforce is necessary at < 100 mph? And yes even on that CTS-V drift car, that wing is f'in ridiculous.

dailydriver

That's NOT a drift car, it's an SCCA World Challenge road racing car (that's the whole reason he posted it - to show that if we "hate on" "gaudy" drift car aesthetics, we should also think the Caddy is ricey). BTW; that CTS-V R DOES use/need that wing for downforce (sweeper turns at >110 mph!!). If you want to learn more about it, there's an article in the latest Motor Trend ( I KNOW!) comparing the street CTS-V to the R version.

dailydriver

Why so defensive??! I NEVER said it was not viable/cool, or should not exist! Just trying to give some explanation as to why some don't love it to death. I think most on here like "heads up", straightforward racing, and that's why I brought the "judged" sports thing into it, NOT to dis/demean drifting. Of course it's cooler to watch/do drifting than most of the other judged "sports", but it is also subject to the same biases, corruption, favoritism as those "sports". If one looks at it as pure entertainment, either as a spectator or participant, it's hard to beat.

PowerShift408

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sorry, didn't realize it wasn't a drift car, got caught up in the drift discussion. As long as it has a purpose, I'm all for it.

02NHRAtransAm

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i wouldnt see why not i drift mine around corners and what not quiet often

redramair98

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looks fun but, sure looks like it pounds on your car too!

Hersker Hans

Wings in drifting are mostly for lifting the smoke up higher to give a show effect, the vacum/turbulence behind the car keeps the smoke behind it. So no matter how it looks you should have a wing on youre drift car. Download some movies from my site in my signature and study it yourself. there has been a few discussions about drifting on this forum and its a bit dissapointing, and it would be nice if this thread got a bit more back to topic to.

mikespeed95

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i dont know what drifting forum you are on, but the peopel that really drift at a pro level wing IS added rear downforce. contrary to popular beleif you want rear grip in a drift, because it increases speed. however the ability to spin 275's out back at 80mph with a wing on it is a lot, which is why most the top cars now are 450+rwhp, and runnin at least 275's out back.

if you want to see some aero in action on a drift car, look up rhys millens gto from irwindale in 05. they put a big piece of lexan down the right side above the 1/4 panel, to direct air onto the wing to increase rear grip therefore increase speed. nobody could touch him alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll weekend. then in the final round, the ls1 did its thing and the power steering pump died.

its like any other motorsport, more traction, more power, more downforce, less wieght, you go faster and have more control.

mikespeed95

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i know about that car. but you never know where it might end up next year though since they are building replacements for 07....