number1gun

is this just me or what
i went to some dealership today to look at a camaro ss and they had a t/a there too so i'm talking to the sales me and he tells me that the t/a is a stick and the camaro is auto and asks me what i need all that power fow then...bla bla bla he tells me that the t/a would have a quicker et on the track cause it was a stick so ofcourse i have to tell him that he's wron that all i would have to do is drop it to first pop the over drive button shisft to 2nd shift to drive and press over drive and amazingly it's runs just like a manual

has this happend to anyone eles or is this just me

Chopstix

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number1gun

the tranny has basicly an electronic manual valve body

number1gun

try this take you hawk and run it down a street or strip in drive the run it while going through the gears manualy

99Hawk262

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On the contrary, manually shifting an auto would slow it down compared to leaving it in drive. And stock for stock, the 6-speed should edge out the auto at the track and on the street. Modded is a different story . I'd say you taught yourself how to open mouth and insert foot.

number1gun

prove me wrong and foot will be inserted

Chopstix

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yep.....

number1gun

foot is firmly inserted

BLKWS.6

As to YOUR case...the sales rep was correct and as stated if you manually shift your 4L60E, you will burn out the clutches because sufficient line-pressure is not reached for that shift ect. ect. ect. and you will be slower as well. The sales rep IN THIS CASE owned you. But as stated above, that is rare.

PS, the auto F-bodies will USUALLY out-run a normal driver in an M6 at the strip, but ***** to the wall with good drivers they cant hang.

NBMgreg

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think about it, stock for stock (NOT MODDED!)

autos have more drivetrain loss, so an M6 will have alittle more power to the ground, and if the person can drive, the M6 will definately edge out the auto. the M6 can launch at a very high RPM, and also has taller gears.

whats so hard to believe?

modded is a different story, put a 4k stall/shift kit in an auto car and all hell will break lose, and lay the smack down on MANY M6 cars.

NBMgreg

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LOL, it's all good man, at least you admit your mistake.

ya learn something everyday



PS. its weird how your post went above like 3 other posts even though you posted this AFTER those 3 posts

99Hawk262

iTrader: (19)

This is true. Your average driver in a M6 could potentially lose to an A4 at the track. A4's are easier than an M6 to launch. And A4's have a better 1st gear than the M6's. But on the road, the M6 would rule....stock for stock.

And yeah man, we are all just playing with you. I learn new stuff on this site daily myself.

number1gun

wow and i always thought it was faster dang at least i didn't lose a bet for my stupidity

giant016

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The three LS1 M6 guys I've seen in person have run 13.8 or worse at the track. At the same track, my first time ever, I ran either a 13.4 or 13.5 with a CAI that I didn't even know I had. I'm sure that a pro would rape me, but the M6 guys say they can't keep it straight.

StoleIt

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It's all based on the driver. But I used to slap around stock C5 Auto's when my SS was stock. It wasn't even close.

But a properly shifted M6 will beat out a stock A4. Its when you start going fast that auto's will destroy manuals.

seawolf18

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Autos are usually more consistent than a manual. Plus, use some punctuation. Run on sentences are harder than hell to read.

y2k_ta

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agreed....and agreed again.

Camaroz

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What? Don't you mean from a Roll. My A4 is so easy to launch on the street, a person who has never driven my car before could get a good launch goin'.

'Trust'

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Manually shifting an auto is not very efficient. Honestly, you cannot shift better than that computer, its very good at it! CamaroZ, the reason that he is saying that M6's rule on the street is one, like you said, they own on a role stock for stock, the A4 simply wont down shift and doesnt have as many gears to do so to, if a well setup A4 could stick on the street (very rare) it would be just like the track, but M6's can control wheel spin better than a stalled A4 that revs halfway up the band before really letting the tires have it. If you can launch my A4 on the street with my 285 Nittos and get traction prior to 45 MPH I would be giving you alot of money for your method!

Camaroz

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A4's downshift quite nice, if in there sweet spot. But like you said, 4 gears vs 6 gears.

BTW I don't think I would fair well considering i've never driven a car with a aftermarket converter I sure as hell would have fun though