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Old 04-07-2007, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Shinigami2x4
Its the shortage and higher demand of production from the farmer thats driving the prices up. Farmers just dont have enough land to grow crops on to meet the heavy demands. I have seen first hand that the farmers and trying their best to compensate for the demand
Thats exactly what I was going to post. I'm not sure if E85 is still as low as it was cause I havn't been by that station in awhile. It was probably so low casue I live in the "corn belt", theirs a high supply and little demand in my area. Most people either don't know about it or are against it. Personally if I had an E85 compatable vehicle thats all I would use in it. I really want it to catch on and be widely avaible but I don't think that will happen for a long time. If I did I'd put this bumper sticker on the back window

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Old 04-08-2007, 10:48 PM
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Ethanol can be made from almost any plant fiber. If we actually start making from other plant fibers in great quantities instead of mostly corn, then it will be more plentiful and its cost will go down.
Old 12-06-2007, 04:36 PM
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the only reason its currently only made from sugar and/or corn is that they are very simple sugars that are easy for them to break down

they could make ethanol from ANY organic material with sugar in it which is pretty much everything
like the entire tree or yard trimmings or compost heaps
the reason they dont do that right now is that it is a much more involved process with all the different types of sugars
at least thats what i have come to understand

ethanol is pretty much an all around better fuel
significantly less emissions with no sulpher dioxide and no CO
much higher octain rating (depending on blend) its anywhere from 100-115
it has the potential to make alot more power esp when on a boosted application

when i move back to dallas i will make my scout E85 with boost and use the E85 to its octain potential
for some odd reason west texas doesnt have any E85 stations
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what I wonder is how long before Al Gore makes a movie about the evil republican corporations burning our dwindling finite supply of topsoil and irrigation water in our vehicles which will cause the endo of that world. Speaking of which, check this out...

http://www.newsbull.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=55502

or for the super spun version by the New York Times...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/ar...=1&oref=slogin

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Originally Posted by jond99
The whole thought of e85 was supposed to be 1. better for environment, 2. cheaper(domestic corn+ethanol distillers) and 3. Reduce dependency on foreign fuels. But thanks to greedy American farmers it cost the same as the imported fuel. USA #1!!!
You're obviously not a farmer nor do you have any family that farms.
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Originally Posted by y2k_ta
You're obviously not a farmer nor do you have any family that farms.
He obviously must not eat their food, probably isn't one of the evil oil users either...
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wierd, a password window keeps coming up for me on this thread
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Originally Posted by Shooter_Jay
wierd, a password window keeps coming up for me on this thread
e85 is watching you
Old 12-07-2007, 03:57 PM
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I dont thank E85 will ever catch on becouse it takes a lot of water to make and theres not enought farmers or land to grow food for us and corn and what ever it takes to make the E85.
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theres a guy on here with a som trans am that runs on e85 but i cant remember his name
Old 12-07-2007, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jond99
ya you get a little worse gas mileage with e85, but it has a 91 octane rating and burns cleaner than regular gasoline.
There is no doubt about it E85 is 105 octane...... People are building high compression race motors and running E85.
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Originally Posted by 02gtp4now
theres a guy on here with a som trans am that runs on e85 but i cant remember his name
IŽve run my car on E85 for over three years...
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E85 has the estimated octain of 105 depending on ur area. there is a certain percentage of ethanol to gas mixture that makes up e85. its eaither a 70%30 mixture or 80%20 of ethanol and 85 octail gasoline
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and yes E85 is a great fuel if its cheaper than regular gas
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Originally Posted by z2fast8
there is a certain percentage of ethanol to gas mixture that makes up e85. its eaither a 70%30 mixture or 80%20 of ethanol and 85 octail gasoline
Um.... the name tells you the mixture.

E = Ethanol
85 = 85% Ethanol
The other 15% is Gasoline

E85 = 85% Ethanol, 15% Gasoline.
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Out of the 170,000 filling stations nationwide, only 700 or so stations carry E85, and that is caused by different factors. The major corps. that own these fueling stations are refusing to sell E85 and to meet the high demand of E85 needs farmers would have to dedicate around 3/4 of the farmable land in the U.S. to produce enough ethanol, or start importing it from Brazil. There also are not enough refineries yet to keep up with high demand, so add all of these factors up and you can see how the price is going to fluctuate year round. Its not a brand new fuel, but its just now in recent years making its big debut so its going to take some time before the widespread use can be considered "normal and convenient".
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Well even if you could just throw E85 in it and drive off into the sunset there isn't anywhere to get it around here so I'm screwed
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actually no it does not tell u the mixture. the newest hotrod has a really good article about E85 and describes the mixture of it. common mistake tho i did'nt know till i read it
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Originally Posted by VIP1
Um.... the name tells you the mixture.

E = Ethanol
85 = 85% Ethanol
The other 15% is Gasoline

E85 = 85% Ethanol, 15% Gasoline.
Yes but in the winter the E85 really is E75 that is sold as E85
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I just want it for the 105 octane rating




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