Factory Freak???
04-05-2007, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray455
Come on now, it's not THAT bad here.
My one and only run at Famoso netted me a 14.0@100mph, and that was with a transmission that refused to shift into 3rd until I let off to 1/2 throttle.
Believe me, there had to be something wrong with that WS6 if I can run a better time with a @#$#ed up transmission, and with me getting half way off the gas after bouncing off the limiter a few times.
Too bad I couldn't get another run in, I was <.3 behind the Camaro in the next lane until the stupid transmission decided to sit and bang the limiter, and he ran 13.3@105.
We'll see how bad it is at the next open test & tune, but sadly by that time I'll have a little more into my pos slow '99
My one and only run at Famoso netted me a 14.0@100mph, and that was with a transmission that refused to shift into 3rd until I let off to 1/2 throttle.
Believe me, there had to be something wrong with that WS6 if I can run a better time with a @#$#ed up transmission, and with me getting half way off the gas after bouncing off the limiter a few times.
Too bad I couldn't get another run in, I was <.3 behind the Camaro in the next lane until the stupid transmission decided to sit and bang the limiter, and he ran 13.3@105.
We'll see how bad it is at the next open test & tune, but sadly by that time I'll have a little more into my pos slow '99
remember tonys old firebird, 98 they took it down there like five times nver broke a 13 sec pass.
04-05-2007, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by orangefun
there is always alot of take about fast a car should be, but cars are only as fast as there owners can drive them
04-05-2007, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 02 Pewter SS
02 SS stock convertible. 13.2 @ 109 with a 2.6 60ft. I have D/Rs now and am waiting to go back to the track 8)
04-05-2007, 01:48 PM
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I've seen an 01SS with lid, catback and 555Rs race a 98Z with free mods, lid, P&P TB, ls6 intake, LT headers, 3in true duel exhaust with X-pipe, gears, and tune. Guess who won..............the SS. Both were A4s. SS jumped out 3 and it stayed that way until 120. After the initial 3 the SS never pulled anymore nor did the Z ever close the gap. Both guys are really good friends and Z owner said it didn't spin at all; he just couldn't catch him. We all expected SS to jump out and get reeled in.
04-05-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by supernova1972
Those "Factory Freak" cars you speak of usually dyno 10-20 more horse than average. Such as a stock a4 will be around 285-300 a freak would be 310-320. So that isnt gonna make the difference of a close race and a slaughter. Drag or dyno it, if it is 310 its strong running, if its 340, id call that a freak.
Okay so if my car dynoed 323hp stock its an a4 would that make it a factory freak or a strong stock a4 it also ran 13.2 at 106 in the 1/4 stock it did have 3.23 gears in know that helps with the et over 2.73's
04-05-2007, 02:06 PM
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id say you have a car with the 3.23 gear option IMHO they were the fastest ls1 f bodys.ive seen them beat the m6 cars .
you guys kill me sayin the 01-02 cars are faster the SI record is held by a 98 model car yeah the intake is better but the cam is a pos.the heads are casted a little smoother the flow is the same.
i raced a 01 ws6 with a catback and lid at the track when my 98 was bone stock.he beat me by .2 however his car was an m6 were i was a 2.73 a4.my bet is on the gears being 3.23
sounds like a strong car
you guys kill me sayin the 01-02 cars are faster the SI record is held by a 98 model car yeah the intake is better but the cam is a pos.the heads are casted a little smoother the flow is the same.
i raced a 01 ws6 with a catback and lid at the track when my 98 was bone stock.he beat me by .2 however his car was an m6 were i was a 2.73 a4.my bet is on the gears being 3.23
sounds like a strong car
04-05-2007, 02:07 PM
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All these drage times mean nothing without factoring in elevation/DA. Stock LS1s here run low 14s/high 13s if they are lucky. Other places they run low 13s high 12s. The air makes a HUGE difference, so comparing numbers isn't as simple as you would think
04-05-2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by oneBADDz
All these drage times mean nothing without factoring in elevation/DA. Stock LS1s here run low 14s/high 13s if they are lucky. Other places they run low 13s high 12s. The air makes a HUGE difference, so comparing numbers isn't as simple as you would think
04-05-2007, 02:54 PM
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Yeah, I know how much the air can effect you. I ran a 13.1@106 here last fall, then I installed a Shaner ported TB and a LS6 manifold and ran a 13.0@107. I was dissappointed. Then i ran the numbers through a DA calculator because it was very hot/humid that day, and I found out if it would have been the same DA as before I would have run a 12.79 it said. So i was happy to hear that. Now I have Duals too, so I'm hoping for 12.7's next time to the track. Especially after my tune. I think it's pretty quick for being a auto with no aftermarket torque converter and the tires that came on it in '00. Don't you? 
04-05-2007, 02:59 PM
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my car started with 8.5 in the 1/8th now is at 7.9 in the 1/8th full bolt ons minus lid and 3.73's we are at absolute sea level which is great for et's i live on the florida/georgia/atlantic ocean line i ran stock at maryland inernational raceway and got 13.6 at 106. ran at gainsville still stock and got a 13.2 at 106 so evelation dont effect my cars mph just et. i would love to find out what it runs all bolt on like it is i guessing 12.6 to 12.8 somewhere in there
04-05-2007, 03:01 PM
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Yeah that is fast. I was still at a positive DA, but not a huge one. I am noping to get 12.7's or even better after my tune . Then a stall/tires and I'm hoping for lower 12's. Then a cam and I may be the fastest car in my club at Purdue (fastest now is also an LS1, 98Z, 11.8@117)
. Then a stall/tires and I'm hoping for lower 12's. Then a cam and I may be the fastest car in my club at Purdue (fastest now is also an LS1, 98Z, 11.8@117) 
04-05-2007, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
i base on how strong a car is by track times not street races.
I don't there are far to many factors involved at the track. Such as weather,track prep and driver skill. There are people on this site with 423hp F-Bodies that can't get out of the 12's
04-05-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GJL0180
I am the original owner. It broke em loose even with new tires I have Falken GR 275/40zr-17 all around it which is a good tire. Well since I live in Arkansas now I do not trust anyone here to dyno my car. There are a couple of shops here,but they pretty much serve rice at those places and I would not trust them with my LS1. I don't think there are any 1/4 mile tracks in AR?
Polk performance in benton is a great shop they just built a brand new building. they have a dyno and are very good with cars.
there is also a dyno in fort smith, don't know the name of the shop but a bunch of vw guys i know go there.
and there is a track in centerville (russelville) area. its a 1000ft track (1/4 is 1320) if you go out there and run sub 11's (in the 1000ft) stock then you have a very quick car from the factory.
04-05-2007, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CJDZ24_Z28
I don't there are far to many factors involved at the track. Such as weather,track prep and driver skill. There are people on this site with 423hp F-Bodies that can't get out of the 12's
you can still get a better idea than basing it on a street race.
