do our cars have these?
05-11-2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by yodas little brother
so i you dont have airbags in your car will the box still work?(rebuilt title 99 ss)
PS, I think all 4th gens have it
05-12-2007, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JKDZ28
According to the F-Body F.A.Q the 1998 cars DO NOT have the "black box". Check it out in all the years. Including post #21 in the 1998 section.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....80&postcount=2
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....80&postcount=2
http://www.harristechnical.com/cdr.htp
05-12-2007, 07:58 AM
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Yes our cars have it.
No it can not be removed, because the car will not run.
No the police will not read it to issue you a ticket.
Yes it only stores a minute bit of information, mostly recent activity, like prior to a crash.
It has been used by lawyers in crashes were it resulted in fatalities.
In Florida a driver who was DUI was convicted of reckless endangerement when his black box read he was doing almost 100 mph when he crashed and killed two teenage girls.
Wouldn't you think that DUI was enough to get this guy into jail??
If you aren't doing anything wrong then you don't have anything to worry about.
No it can not be removed, because the car will not run.
No the police will not read it to issue you a ticket.
Yes it only stores a minute bit of information, mostly recent activity, like prior to a crash.
It has been used by lawyers in crashes were it resulted in fatalities.
In Florida a driver who was DUI was convicted of reckless endangerement when his black box read he was doing almost 100 mph when he crashed and killed two teenage girls.
Wouldn't you think that DUI was enough to get this guy into jail??
If you aren't doing anything wrong then you don't have anything to worry about.
05-12-2007, 05:40 PM
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that can't be I know people who use a bs3 and no stock engine computer (literally removed it) who got into an accident and the airbags still worked...
Does anyone have a definite answer?
Does anyone have a definite answer?
05-12-2007, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sundaydriver
Either way, it wouldn't bother me whether or not I have a black box. Doesn't really matter either way.
If a moderator sees this, and this fella is right, it would probably be helpful to change the sticky information.
05-13-2007, 05:14 PM
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Right away I can tell the republicans from the people that actually have a clue. I'm surprised this is becoming an issue as of recent. I would think Bush thought this scheme up, he's all for spying on Americans.
It has no relevance to the subject, whether or not it monitors you, but the fact that technology will advance to the extent as mentioned in the above article. All they have to do is serialize their program with your license plate number and anytime it's recorded doing over the speed limit based upon location, they'll end up mailing you a ticket. What a clever way to develop revenue for new programs.
It has no relevance to the subject, whether or not it monitors you, but the fact that technology will advance to the extent as mentioned in the above article. All they have to do is serialize their program with your license plate number and anytime it's recorded doing over the speed limit based upon location, they'll end up mailing you a ticket. What a clever way to develop revenue for new programs.
05-13-2007, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by reocamaro
Right away I can tell the republicans from the people that actually have a clue. I'm surprised this is becoming an issue as of recent. I would think Bush thought this scheme up, he's all for spying on Americans.
It has no relevance to the subject, whether or not it monitors you, but the fact that technology will advance to the extent as mentioned in the above article. All they have to do is serialize their program with your license plate number and anytime it's recorded doing over the speed limit based upon location, they'll end up mailing you a ticket. What a clever way to develop revenue for new programs.
It has no relevance to the subject, whether or not it monitors you, but the fact that technology will advance to the extent as mentioned in the above article. All they have to do is serialize their program with your license plate number and anytime it's recorded doing over the speed limit based upon location, they'll end up mailing you a ticket. What a clever way to develop revenue for new programs.
They already do that with cameras on traffic lights.
05-13-2007, 06:47 PM
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This is the same reason why if you've been doing any hard driving prior to breaking your car, you need to disconnect the negative battery lead before bringing it in for any warranty work.
05-13-2007, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by reocamaro
Right away I can tell the republicans from the people that actually have a clue. I'm surprised this is becoming an issue as of recent. I would think Bush thought this scheme up, he's all for spying on Americans.
Nice try, but it's been that way before the Bush Administration. '99 F-bodies have this "black box" and that was before Bush took office.
05-13-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by reocamaro
It has no relevance to the subject, whether or not it monitors you, but the fact that technology will advance to the extent as mentioned in the above article.
Even if it did happen, it wouldn't give you a ticket if you happen to creep 1 or 2 over. You have to speed up to pass people. It'd most likely be 10-20 over would give you a ticket, or something to that effect.
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ok well since this thread went south I'd like to know these things...
Where is the black box?
Which years did it come on?
Where does it pull the info that it records? Directly from the PCM?
Why did someone say the car won't crank without it? Stock PCM diagnoses it on start-up? If so can it be tuned out in a tuning program? (HP Tuners, EFILive etc.)
I already know if the stock engine computer is removed that the airbags still work so what effect does it have on airbags if any.?.?.?
What does it record?
What company maufactures it?
Does anyone have a wiring schematic for it?
Oh Yeah and can someone please tell me where this sticky is about this subject.
Would it be possible to remove the black box and still keep the air bags?
Where is the black box?
Which years did it come on?
Where does it pull the info that it records? Directly from the PCM?
Why did someone say the car won't crank without it? Stock PCM diagnoses it on start-up? If so can it be tuned out in a tuning program? (HP Tuners, EFILive etc.)
I already know if the stock engine computer is removed that the airbags still work so what effect does it have on airbags if any.?.?.?
What does it record?
What company maufactures it?
Does anyone have a wiring schematic for it?
Oh Yeah and can someone please tell me where this sticky is about this subject.
Would it be possible to remove the black box and still keep the air bags?