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Old 06-22-2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
I hate to break this to you, but your SS doesn't have any more power stock than a Z28 of the same year.

Yes, it's 100 true, SS = Z28 = SS when it come to factory power level. There is no difference in track times or dyno numbers.

The SS package is NOTHING more than appearance and some minor suspension differences. If you bought it because you thought it'd be quicker than a Z28, then you've been fooled by GM marketing.
what type of susp makes it different by the way ? just wondering? and i guess im a idiot i thought the Forced air induction helped on the top end, and the ss was running atleast 1/10 of a sex better but i dont no to much so my bad im an idiot!
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
If you bought it because you thought it'd be quicker than a Z28, then you've been fooled by GM marketing.
no just cuz i liked the "Appearance" hence the Package i liked the spoiler and the hood and the "SS" is something i always wanted in my Camaro since ill never have a 69 SS lol . IMO i dont like the way the 98-02 front looks wit out the hood is all .
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Yes, the SS is an appearance package. No, the super-cool looking hood scoop doesn't gain you anything other than a few more looks on the street. Some sites say that because the hood gets hot, it has the potential to lose negligible amounts of power, but either way, it doesn't matter at all.

Yes, all stock cars put out somewhere in the range of 300 at the wheels. Bit more with the M6 than the A4 (though the A4 will still be the weapon of choice for the drag strip, of course). So, the article is correct as others have said.

Your quarter time is right in there for a good average run for a stock car on junk rubber.
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Originally Posted by Sharpe
Yes, the SS is an appearance package. No, the super-cool looking hood scoop doesn't gain you anything other than a few more looks on the street. Some sites say that because the hood gets hot, it has the potential to lose negligible amounts of power, but either way, it doesn't matter at all.

Yes, all stock cars put out somewhere in the range of 300 at the wheels. Bit more with the M6 than the A4 (though the A4 will still be the weapon of choice for the drag strip, of course). So, the article is correct as others have said.

Your quarter time is right in there for a good average run for a stock car on junk rubber.
thx i only been to the track that one time the first 2 runs were 14.0 i was getting pissed lol but my 3rd was the 13.3 i figure wit a better 60 and some DRad i would run a 13.1/2 but i got slp headers and slp parts all the way back and a lid to put on so that and a tune ill see a better time.
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DUH!!!
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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSteeleLS1SS
Now im not agreeing with this article but here it is just found it!

Replacing the LT1 was GM’s all-new LS1, which had been introduced with the fifth-generation Corvette in 1997. It featured the same OHV design, but was cast in aluminum, reducing weight. While the engine had been "detuned" slightly with only single exhaust (which would split into two when it exited the underside of the car) the small number of changes between it and the Corvette version — as well as the real-world performance — make the 305hp rating that GM assigned it in the Z28 a rather conservative estimate. Dyno reports and performance figures support the notion that all LS1 cars, regardless of Chevrolet’s figures put out 345 hp.


The 2001 Z28 and SS models received the intake manifold from the LS6 (the engine used in the fifth-generation Corvette Z06.) Accordingly, the horsepower rating was increased to 310 for the Z28 and 325 for the SS, although both models remained underrated.



http://www.topspeed.com/cars/chevrol...3.html#index_1

I wish this was True!

Jeeeze o whizzz...man we just had this thread a few days ago. Listen....I work for GM.....and I can assure you...all LS1's, (untampered with) from GM have the same horsepower. If you buy an LS1 crate engine...they all have 350hp at the flywheel. If you but a 2001 Z28 it has 350hp at the flywheel....a 2000 Vette has 350hp at the flywheel.....a 2002 s5th anniversary SS Camaro has 350hp at the flywheel.....a 2002 Trans Am has 350hp at the flywheel.

Damn....it's a fact! Do we need any more threads asking this question?
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Originally Posted by Torque_Wrench
Jeeeze o whizzz...man we just had this thread a few days ago. Listen....I work for GM.....and I can assure you...all LS1's, (untampered with) from GM have the same horsepower. If you buy an LS1 crate engine...they all have 350hp at the flywheel. If you but a 2001 Z28 it has 350hp at the flywheel....a 2000 Vette has 350hp at the flywheel.....a 2002 s5th anniversary SS Camaro has 350hp at the flywheel.....a 2002 Trans Am has 350hp at the flywheel.

Damn....it's a fact! Do we need any more threads asking this question?
sorry lol im only "On the tree" lol 100 post im learning my bad....
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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSteeleLS1SS
sorry lol im only "On the tree" lol 100 post im learning my bad....
You sir need to stop apologizing! Lol, don't sweat it. Around here its a well known fact that all LS1's put out about the same power stock, and that is around 345-350, however outside this board you will find people convinced that base Z28 or T/A's have 305 HP.
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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSteeleLS1SS
sorry lol im only "On the tree" lol 100 post im learning my bad....

No problem dude....it happens...lol....but now you see why we flame up on this particular topic.
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So when I add a turbonator does that give me an extra 10% HP from the 350 or 310?
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ahh this takes me back
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this was 98. 02 numbers are higher.
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any engine the corvette and the camaro/TA shared was underrated in favor of the corvette. LS1 LT1 L98 etc.
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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSteeleLS1SS
Now im not agreeing with this article but here it is just found it!
...I wish this was True!

OMFrigginG how many times do we have to go through this? Some day this **** will make it to a sticky.
98-00 bout an average 345
01-04 355ish,
Old 06-24-2007, 10:23 PM
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01-04 355ish.. is that rwhp? so my 01 z should have at least the 310 as rwhp?
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Except for a lid and a Corsa catback, my SS is stock. I had it dynoed last fall for the first time just so I would know what it had before I started any real modding. It put down about 305 RWHP. The tuner told me it was around 350-352 at the crank. Here you go:
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Originally Posted by MrDude_1
it IS true...


remember 90% of the car world measures power at the crank.....



we all use rear wheel horsepower here... but outside of "ls1 world" flywheel power is the norm.

our stock cars cranking out 312ish at the rear wheels is 358 if you believe the generic 15% loss rule.. lol..... they are 345ish flywheel hp from the factory.

exactly!!!!! nothing else needs to be said!!!

GM goal was 1hp per ci and they accomplished that....
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True True True No Need To Say Anymore.
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holy **** our cars have 350 horsepower? i thought it came with like 190-210?
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Originally Posted by 1meantransam
holy **** our cars have 350 horsepower? i thought it came with like 190-210?
They do!

Those are the 6 cylinders...



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