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04-14-2008, 03:06 PM
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Yeah, I've driven F-bodies with the automatic with both the LT1 and LS1, every time I have been disappointed. The manual is just better IMHO. Wait for the stalled/geared auto guys to come in here and tell me how they'll destroy me from a roll or dig or whatever. It's just not fun to me, my car is a daily driver, I get a big kick out of rowing gears and good mileage on the highway. Maybe I'm just weird.
04-14-2008, 03:16 PM
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It's common knowledge
. Every LS1 owner knows that it's exhaust note can't compare to an LT1's. Different firing order, block material = Deeper/Better tone
04-14-2008, 03:20 PM
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04-14-2008, 03:25 PM
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04-14-2008, 03:32 PM
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it's funny how in the F body community, standards mean you're gay (apparently) whereas in most car enthusiast circles it's the other way around.
i am going to assume that it's because about 70% of 4th gens are auto.. and there are alot of bitter owners.
it's cool.
04-14-2008, 03:34 PM
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04-14-2008, 03:44 PM
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppppppppppppppppp ppppp
it's funny how in the F body community, standards mean you're gay (apparently) whereas in most car enthusiast circles it's the other way around.
i am going to assume that it's because about 70% of 4th gens are auto.. and there are alot of bitter owners.
it's cool.
it's funny how in the F body community, standards mean you're gay (apparently) whereas in most car enthusiast circles it's the other way around.
i am going to assume that it's because about 70% of 4th gens are auto.. and there are alot of bitter owners.
it's cool.
04-14-2008, 05:07 PM
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Anyone that thinks someone else is "gay" or "less manly" because of their trans type is probably so deep into the closet themselves that they're finding Christmas presents hidden in 1983. 
Why would I be bitter? I buy autos because that's what I like, not because I've "settled" for it. Why would anyone be bitter about getting what they wanted? 
No one should ever settle for a trans type they don't like, I'll be the first to tell anyone that.If anything I think it's the M6 owners that really take this stuff personally. I mean, we auto guys get bashed constantly, yet (for the most part), we take it in stride and toss a few comments back in our defense....but mostly we're good sports about it. You M6 people though....holy crap, all we have to do is mention how M6s aren't the best or most fun choice for everyone/every situation, and it's like we've just smashed a beehive with a sledgehammer.
Wow, how wrong you are!
I've passed up sooo many M6 cars when shopping for the various F-bodies I've owned. There never seems to be a shortage of low mileage M6 cars in my area. Probably because their owners get sick of shifting in constant Chicago traffic and seldom drive the cars.
A4s with low miles are hard to find around here.
04-14-2008, 06:38 PM
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I could find you a low mile M6 car no problem, but the "cheap" part.... THAT would be a problem.
Nothing around here is cheap.... houses, cars, gas....all very high in Chicagoland. 
04-14-2008, 06:51 PM
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It really does suck being a poor college student. Ugh.
04-14-2008, 07:03 PM
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I would definately drive one if you haven't yet. When I switched from my LT1 to the LS1 I was shocked at the difference in the two motors. The LS1 with my Borla cutout open was only a little louder then the LT1 with it closed. The power bands between the two engines are totally different as well. My stock bolt on LT1 was running out of breath at 4.5k and the LS1 was turing into a monster at that RPM. Biggest thing I had to get used to was the lack of low end tourque. I must have stall the thing 20 times in the first week couse I didn't give it enough gas on take off. On the + side though, it's easier to manage/avoid tire spin on launch.
And last but not least. A bolt on LT1 with a stock cam and heads makes maybe 310 RWHP, an LS1 makes upwards of 350 RWHP. You need ported heads and a Hot cam in a LT1 to make those numbers. It's also common to make 400 RWHP with a cam only LS1.
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And last but not least. A bolt on LT1 with a stock cam and heads makes maybe 310 RWHP, an LS1 makes upwards of 350 RWHP. You need ported heads and a Hot cam in a LT1 to make those numbers. It's also common to make 400 RWHP with a cam only LS1.
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04-14-2008, 07:08 PM
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I went from a 96 Z28 M6 to a 01 WS6 M6 and the difference was night and day. I buy LT1 cars now because they can be had at cheap prices, fixed and sold to make some money for mods. I would never again daily drive an LT1, I just dont care for them. The motor is great other than the opti, I am putting on in my 55 Chevy truc right now. But there is ALOT more room to work in that engine bay.
IMO get the LS1, but if you modded the LT1 im sure you wouldnt be dissapinted either.
IMO get the LS1, but if you modded the LT1 im sure you wouldnt be dissapinted either.
04-14-2008, 08:18 PM
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Yeah, I really enjoy the low end grunt of my lt1 for daily driving. Makes cruising really easy. Tire spin when racing is a total bitch. But then again, I can slip the clutch at idle with a little gas and not stall. So theres a give and take. If I had the money to spare, I think I'd make the move.