How good are the 6.0L GTO's???
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LS1 F-body > LS2 GTO. The extra 50 horsepower usually can't make up for the extra weight. Add to that the fact that they are less aerodynamic (making them suffer from a roll) and much harder to launch thanks to IRS (making them suffer from a dig), the same driver should have the advantage with the F-body. Just about every story of stock F-body vs. stock GTO has the F-body coming out on top. Reason is, the cars are about perfectly equal, but the F-body is much easier to drive.
foreverzero, there is no LS1 F-body that has ever come with 325bhp. They all have 340-350+bhp from the factory. The '01-'02 models have a few more ponies thanks to the LS6 intake and the redesigned exhaust manifolds. These cars were disgustingly underrated by GM to add to the lovely "Corvette tax."
foreverzero, there is no LS1 F-body that has ever come with 325bhp. They all have 340-350+bhp from the factory. The '01-'02 models have a few more ponies thanks to the LS6 intake and the redesigned exhaust manifolds. These cars were disgustingly underrated by GM to add to the lovely "Corvette tax."
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A few weeks ago, while cruising around. I was at a stop light, and i notice a silver GTO coming up behind me. He then pulls up on the lane next to me, and as i was paying more attention to his car, since it came up next to me, and ahead a bit. I would say, my nose of the car was at his door. So the light turned green and i getta honk from behind me. So you know, i was like "ohh" lol and i took off kinda quick, and i guess the guy in the GTO thought i was trying to show off around him, or get him to race me. I gave a look towards him, and i see him give me the "NO" nod, by in a cocky way....I was like wtf??? ya know, but as he got ahead more, i then noticed the 6.0L badge at the back. Then i was like...ohh okk. Now i see why your being cocky, you got tha 6.0L LS2 GTO. (never saw the hood till i passed him later on in traffic)
My question is, just how good are these car's??? There's very few of these GTO's driving around here, well atleast i see very little of them.
My question is, just how good are these car's??? There's very few of these GTO's driving around here, well atleast i see very little of them.
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well here is a good video:
Ls2 GTO M6 Stock vs 1998 Trans am A4 stock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSNZNTBFaG4
... i know that your camaro is faster than that t/a but it would have been "sort of" close
Ls2 GTO M6 Stock vs 1998 Trans am A4 stock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSNZNTBFaG4
... i know that your camaro is faster than that t/a but it would have been "sort of" close
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I wouldn't buy a GTO if you want to be a drag queen. I have mine because it's a nice car with a nice engine. If I wanted to rule the drag strip and street races I would have bought an F-Body or an Evo
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the overweight jab is a bad one at that, you dont see gto owners bragging about being more aerodynamic, but its true and we also have a better transmission... and the ls2s have more power.
here are some times from ls1gto.com, they will give you a general idea of how good they are.
LS2 super stock
What isn't allowed:headers, aftermarket torque converters. No gear lower then 3.46.
What is allowed: Tuning, exhaust mods after manifolds, underdrive pulley, shifters, ported intake manifold, drag radials, CAI, Throttle body,
1) Lord Vador 12.52 @ 111.091 MPH removed MAF screen, no mufflers, air bags, DRs
2) Slow Sho 12.54 @ 111.74 Catback, Nitto's
3) 8100hammer 12.60@111.21 A4 tune only
4) 05 Red Tomcat 12.65@109.49 preadator tune,nittos ,slp loudmouth II
5) fjpelkey2001 12.700 @ 116.334 MPH K&N drop in, catback, stock tires, gutted cats
6) hellhammer 12.76 @ 108.5 MPH headlight removed and DRs
7) Phutty2000 12.79@ 109 CAI, Super 40's, Predator, and DR's
8) Joe6pt0 12.807 @ 107.94 MPH borla cb, tune
9) speedracer33 12.818@108.18 P&P TB, Ported Intake, Nitto DR, Tune
10) ironmancan 12.837 @ 108.60 Ripshift, Nittos, Drag bags
11) 05GTOM6 12.838 @ 108.31 MPH - MTs, CAI
12) SloNlo_350 12.870 @ 109.51 MPH RWTD dyno tune
13) Vhaulin 12.90 @ 107 tune, DRs
14) '91 formula 12.916@107.58 volant cai, MAF descreened, tune
15) TJT 12.916 @ 107.1 mph GMM ripshift, magnaflow cb, nittos, drag bags
16) spicered06 12.93@ 107.7 Ripshift, KN drop in, drag bags.
17) SS44 13.01 @ 105.27 Tune, Nittos
LS2 Stock Classes:
2) NYTIGER 12.920 @ 109.40 MPH
3) Boilermaker GTO 12.9299 @ 106.89 MPH
4) 05torridred60 12.971 @ 108 MPH - SAP mufflers
5) jumbojet 12.974 @ 108.08 MPH
6) BlackSheep 12.98 @ 108 MPH
7) GTOboss 13.007 @ 108.52mph
8) KYGTO 13.035 @ 108.96 MPH
9) Judgethis05 13.036 @ 108.72
10) hookmechanic 13.074 @ 106.76 MPH
11) SLoW SHO 13.082 @ 108.15
12) SloNlo 13.086 @ 108.75 MPH
13) Aerobirdmotorsports 13.098@106.91
14) TheCamel 13.112 @ 108.49 MPH
15) BadGTO 13.14 @ 104.99 MPH
here are some times from ls1gto.com, they will give you a general idea of how good they are.
LS2 super stock
What isn't allowed:headers, aftermarket torque converters. No gear lower then 3.46.
What is allowed: Tuning, exhaust mods after manifolds, underdrive pulley, shifters, ported intake manifold, drag radials, CAI, Throttle body,
1) Lord Vador 12.52 @ 111.091 MPH removed MAF screen, no mufflers, air bags, DRs
2) Slow Sho 12.54 @ 111.74 Catback, Nitto's
3) 8100hammer 12.60@111.21 A4 tune only
4) 05 Red Tomcat 12.65@109.49 preadator tune,nittos ,slp loudmouth II
5) fjpelkey2001 12.700 @ 116.334 MPH K&N drop in, catback, stock tires, gutted cats
6) hellhammer 12.76 @ 108.5 MPH headlight removed and DRs
7) Phutty2000 12.79@ 109 CAI, Super 40's, Predator, and DR's
8) Joe6pt0 12.807 @ 107.94 MPH borla cb, tune
9) speedracer33 12.818@108.18 P&P TB, Ported Intake, Nitto DR, Tune
10) ironmancan 12.837 @ 108.60 Ripshift, Nittos, Drag bags
11) 05GTOM6 12.838 @ 108.31 MPH - MTs, CAI
12) SloNlo_350 12.870 @ 109.51 MPH RWTD dyno tune
13) Vhaulin 12.90 @ 107 tune, DRs
14) '91 formula 12.916@107.58 volant cai, MAF descreened, tune
15) TJT 12.916 @ 107.1 mph GMM ripshift, magnaflow cb, nittos, drag bags
16) spicered06 12.93@ 107.7 Ripshift, KN drop in, drag bags.
17) SS44 13.01 @ 105.27 Tune, Nittos
LS2 Stock Classes:
2) NYTIGER 12.920 @ 109.40 MPH
3) Boilermaker GTO 12.9299 @ 106.89 MPH
4) 05torridred60 12.971 @ 108 MPH - SAP mufflers
5) jumbojet 12.974 @ 108.08 MPH
6) BlackSheep 12.98 @ 108 MPH
7) GTOboss 13.007 @ 108.52mph
8) KYGTO 13.035 @ 108.96 MPH
9) Judgethis05 13.036 @ 108.72
10) hookmechanic 13.074 @ 106.76 MPH
11) SLoW SHO 13.082 @ 108.15
12) SloNlo 13.086 @ 108.75 MPH
13) Aerobirdmotorsports 13.098@106.91
14) TheCamel 13.112 @ 108.49 MPH
15) BadGTO 13.14 @ 104.99 MPH
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that post is dead on for the stock GTOs i've seen. I would wager that most LS2 GTOs run the lower half of 13s (or should i say the lower third), maybe a few in the 12s as seen in the previous post. Thats about the same as f-bodies, 01-02s especially, if anything the average is only a tenth or two higher. I have seen several bone stock 02 camaros, A4s, run as low as 12.8s. This is something i wouldnt forget, especially when my loud *** stalled car is running at the top of the 12s also.
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they are ok i guess. i remember i dusted one like 2-3 cars from a 40mph roll and then from a dig. good drivetrain, im not really too hot on the styling thou, but i have been in classic GTOs since i was in diapers!
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I am so glad I am not stock LOL I don't bother to go the track very often because I am too cheap to make my car hook in the first 3 gears. I like going from HWY rolls 70-150. Many exotic deaths and their faces are priceless. Ferrari F-430; 2008 Z06; Viper; 911.
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The GTO comes with 50 more HP, responds to mods better, rides better, nicer interior, superior transmission (M6), doesn't come with a glass rear.
I own both cars, the f body is a better track car due to the weight, being able to put a bigger tire on it and the solid rear setup. As far as highway racing, the LS2 GTO will pull a LS1 Fbody everytime assuming equal mods, same tranny and equal driver ability.
Looks are subjective, I personally feel a LS2 GTO is a better looking car than a LS1 Z28...but not a Trans Am.
I own both cars, the f body is a better track car due to the weight, being able to put a bigger tire on it and the solid rear setup. As far as highway racing, the LS2 GTO will pull a LS1 Fbody everytime assuming equal mods, same tranny and equal driver ability.
Looks are subjective, I personally feel a LS2 GTO is a better looking car than a LS1 Z28...but not a Trans Am.