Mean87SS

iTrader: (21)

steer clear...

MrElectric03

iTrader: (71)

You have an 02 TA, 98 Engine, V6 speedo, V6 intake lid...id stay clear. I bet it has a WS6 door too.

Detoxx03

iTrader: (14)

Run the other way.

BluLS1

iTrader: (5)

yeah, i was doubtin gettin it just cause of the odd ball stuff on it like that.. i just thought you guys would get a little kick out of this frankinstein haha

01WS6JACKLE

the phone number for the lot is in tn. but the guys phone number is from here in west texas, odessa midland area. looks real shady. if that car is here in odessa, it may very well be my old ta, it was a 2000. got totaled and that would explain no ws6 rims and hood. i will find my paper work from the car after work and see if the vins match.

Scoggin Dickey

iTrader: (34)

VIN says black leather, WS6. It is the right color exterior. I think it's likely VIN swapped, or a car that was stripped and put together with anything that could be found. Between the wrong seats, dash, gauge cluster, 98-00 engine in an 02 car, V6 lid, wrong hood, wrong steering wheel, Fake Z28 exhaust tips, wrong wheels etc, something SERIOUS is up. I'm led more towards a V6 car with the VIN changed and engine/tranny swapped to an LS1, because there is a lot of V6 stuff for someone to have put all of that on a legit WS6 car.

kct385

Does anyone know what exhaust tips those are.. maybe stock..?? I like them and would like to possibly get some.

Rapter34

iTrader: (4)

This would be fine if he was not trying to scam people that its is a real WS6. he will is probably be trying to sell it to someone who does not know these cars very well. I hate scammers.

BluLS1

iTrader: (5)

stock chrome z28 tips


i emailed the guy back and told him everything wrong with the car and that something was fishy and he hasn't replied back yet haha

Rapter34

iTrader: (4)

O he replied to me here is what he said "Vin number and the door sticker claiming WS-6. Why don't you find something usefull to do other than wasting other peoples time?? Now here is what you do, enjoy the picture and don't bother us unless you are interested in a vehicle. Thanks, Drew"


wow

BluLS1

iTrader: (5)

haha, dangit i just want to slap this guy lol

mycamaroSS

iTrader: (4)

lol what dealers will do to get someones money...what a shame

zuuhlsT/A

iTrader: (2)

That car is just soooo wrong......Something shady goin on

oneBADDz

iTrader: (26)

I told him that he either needs to investigate it more if he doesn't realize the issues, or stop trying to rip people off if he did. He sent back for me to **** off and that I was a ******* idiot, so I told him what all was wrong with it, and that if he's a legit business he's looking at a lawsuit since he has been made aware of the issue that he is advertising something without disclosing the issues. He sent me this in response

Shall I send him the link!?!?!?!???!?!?!

black_phoenix

iTrader: (27)

like everyone else said dont buy...

jts98z28

iTrader: (18)

i thought only vettes had 345hp???

65vette396

I am the seller of this vehicle I finaly found where I was getting all the griping from. I am a licensed dealer and this is not a scam. The Vin on the door that has all of the RPO codes including the WS-6 option matches the metal VIN in the window. There is an abvious story to this car and it is not me trying to scam anyone. If you are truely interested in this vehicle you should call and get the entire story, not just email me telling me I am trying to screw someone. The car was wrecked long ago and put back together. I have no idea as to what the whole story is as I bought the car at an auction. We are not in business to scam anyone and we would not have been in business for the past 20+ years if we were scammers. You folks should all know that the car has to have a storry since I am asking roughly half what it would be worth if it was perfect.... That should be blattenly obvious. I am a used car salesman and not an expert on what T/A's or Camaros are supposed to have. If I knew every option that was supposed to be on every vehicle I sold, you folks would be praying to me because I would be "THE CAR GOD". If you visit our website
www.4seasonsautos.com you would see we have two other T/A's for sale. You would also see that most everything has a free carfax listed for you to draw your own conclusions. Carfax will not let me post thier carfax on autotrader because this car does not qualify for the buyback gaurantee. I just love how everything gets blown out of proportion on forums and it certainly helps when people tweak personal email replies to make things sound even worse. I don't have to sell this vehicle to anyone here and I certainly don't have to scam anyone to sell a vehicle. If you were wondering what the story is with the car here it is. The toll free number listed is through autotrader and has nothing to do with texas other than a router. If you want to know any more than this your guess is as good as mine. Here is a copy of this vehicle's carfax:

65vette396

This CARFAX Report provided by:
Four Seasons Auto Sales
500 Volunteer Hwy
Bristol, TN 37620
423-652-1057






2002 PONTIAC FIREBIRD FORMULA/TRANS AM
2G2FV22G622103916
HATCHBACK 2 DR
5.7L V8 PFI OHV / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options

Hi-I'm the CARFAX Xpert™. I'm here to help you better understand the data in this CARFAX Report. Did you know...
We checked over 5 billion records from thousands of data sources for this vehicle
This vehicle DOES NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee
The last reported odometer reading was 49,853








A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car.

The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX Owners 1-6 Owner 7 Owner 8
Year purchased 2001 2007 2007
Type of owner Personal --- ---
Estimated length of ownership 5 yrs. 10 mo. 3 months 6 months
Owned in the following states/provinces North Carolina, Virginia Virginia Virginia
Estimated miles driven per year --- --- ---
Last reported odometer reading 36,831 45,289 49,853




CARFAX guarantees the information in this section Owners 1-6 Owner 7 Owner 8
Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt
Alert!
Problem Found Alert!
Problem Found Alert!
Problem Found
Fire/Flood | Hail Damage | Buyback/Lemon No Problem No Problem No Problem
Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits Alert!
Problem Found Alert!
Problem Found Alert!
Problem Found
Alert! Severe problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). This vehicle does not qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.





Not all accidents or other issues are reported to CARFAX Owners 1-6 Owner 7 Owner 8
Total Loss Check
No total loss reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported

Structural / Frame Damage Check
No structural / frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported

Airbag Deployment Check
No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported

Odometer Rollback Check
See State DMV-reported Title Problems above. Alert!
Problem Found
Alert!
Problem Found
Alert!
Problem Found

Accident Check
See State DMV-reported Title Problems above. Vehicle sold at a salvage auction on 08/20/2003. Alert!
Problem Found
Alert!
Problem Found
Alert!
Problem Found

Manufacturer Recall Check
Check with an authorized Pontiac dealer for any open recalls. No Recalls Reported
No Recalls Reported
No Recalls Reported









A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 16 record(s) for this 2002 PONTIAC FIREBIRD FORMULA/TRANS AM (2G2FV22G622103916).



Owner 1
Purchased: 2001
Type: Personal
Where: North Carolina
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 8/27/01 - 8/7/03
(1 yr. 11 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
08/27/2001 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Havelock, NC First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle





Owner 2
Purchased: 2003
Where: North Carolina
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 8/7/03 - 8/20/03
(13 days)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
08/07/2003 36,831 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Clayton, NC
Title #406564032198904 New owner reported
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED

08/20/2003 Salvage Auto Auction
Clayton, NC SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
Sold at salvage auction
Collision damage reported





Owner 3
Purchased: 2003
Where: Virginia
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 9/8/03 - 3/9/05
(1 yr. 6 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
09/08/2003 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Thaxton, VA Title or registration issued
New owner reported





Owner 4
Purchased: 2005
Where: Virginia
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 3/9/05 - 4/7/06
(1 year)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
03/09/2005 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Raphine, VA Title or registration issued
New owner reported





Owner 5
Purchased: 2006
Where: Virginia
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 4/7/06 - 4/26/06
(19 days)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
04/07/2006 36,831 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Alpharetta, GA New owner reported
NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED
CARFAX Advisor™
A NAM title is issued when the owner discloses to a DMV mileage fraud, a broken odometer or that the actual mileage of this vehicle is unknown.

Mileage reported after this reading is potentially unreliable.


04/26/2006 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Eastern Region
Listed as
a salvage vehicle

04/26/2006 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cedar Bluff, VA Vehicle purchase reported

05/16/2006 36,831 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cedar Bluff, VA Dealer took title of this vehicle
while it was in inventory
NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
Loan or lien reported

02/15/2007 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Doran, VA Vehicle purchase reported





Owner 6
Purchased: 2007
Where: Virginia
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 4/6/07 - 7/13/07
(3 months)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
04/06/2007 36,831 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Doran, VA New owner reported
NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED





Owner 7
Purchased: 2007
Where: Virginia
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 7/13/07 - 10/15/07
(3 months)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
07/13/2007 45,289 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cedar Bluff, VA Vehicle purchase reported
New owner reported
Dealer took title of this vehicle
while it was in inventory
NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
Loan or lien reported

10/15/2007 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Raven, VA Vehicle purchase reported





Owner 8
Purchased: 2007
Where: Virginia
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 11/9/07 - 5/16/08
(6 months)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
11/09/2007 45,289 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Raven, VA New owner reported
NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED

05/16/2008 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grundy, VA Vehicle purchase reported

06/16/2008 49,853 Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grundy, VA NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
Vehicle repossessed



This is what I wanted to explain IF someone would call. Thanks, Drew

65vette396

BTW if someone is willing to host, I will be more than happy to email you the pictures of the VIN tag as well as the RPO tag. Thanks, Drew

406malibu

as long as you explain that the car has almost nothing original. mis matched interior/engine parts. v/6 speedo that likely doesnt show the correct speed, and a air lid thats not for that car. the car was pieced together and that its about $4500 over priced. also replying with words like "****" in an e-mail from you (representing your dealership) shows a lot of class