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Old 11-16-2010 | 12:00 AM
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The vehicle's modules store CURRENT codes and HISTORY codes. History codes are codes which set at one point in time, but the module is no longer seeing the failure. A CURRENT code is one in which, well...current.

Some aftermarket scan tools, such as the ones used by autozone, can only read CURRENT 'P' codes (aka powertrain). Other codes such as B (body) or C (chassis) codes are stored in other modules such as a BCM, EBCM, or SDM which cant be seen by the scan tools that can only read P codes.

Chances are that the codes the dealer are telling you about are HISTORY codes and are not currently failing, but have failed at some point. This doesnt necessarily mean there is a problem. It could mean they never got cleared after a repair, or maybe the problem is intermittent.
Old 11-16-2010 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by joshp14
The vehicle's modules store CURRENT codes and HISTORY codes. History codes are codes which set at one point in time, but the module is no longer seeing the failure. A CURRENT code is one in which, well...current.

Some aftermarket scan tools, such as the ones used by autozone, can only read CURRENT 'P' codes (aka powertrain). Other codes such as B (body) or C (chassis) codes are stored in other modules such as a BCM, EBCM, or SDM which cant be seen by the scan tools that can only read P codes.

Chances are that the codes the dealer are telling you about are HISTORY codes and are not currently failing, but have failed at some point. This doesnt necessarily mean there is a problem. It could mean they never got cleared after a repair, or maybe the problem is intermittent.
that's exactly what I was wanting to know. I'll see what the dealer says when I get the car back today.

thanks again, I'll post the outcome.
Old 11-16-2010 | 04:41 PM
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Well I just got my car back from the dealer, and sure enough, they replaced the left converter, cleared the SES light, and it didn't cose me a dime!

He did say they saw a few history codes which included:

po161 (o2 sensor right side post converter)

p1626 (theft deterrrent fuel enable signal not recieved)

p1637 (generator L- terminal circuit)

they said they didn't check into any of those codes though, since they were history codes, and as long as the car is running fine and the SES light doesn't come on again, I guess I won't worry about it.

Is that what everyone else on here would do too? Should I check into these codes too, or just drive it and see how is goes?

THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE HELP EVERYONE!
Old 11-16-2010 | 08:21 PM
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If they arent current you could do a lot of parts hanging and you wont even know if it will fix it because the module isnt currently seeing the problem. I'd leave it for now and worry about it if they come back as current.
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Good online diagnostics, guys! Nothing like going into the dealer armed with knowledge and getting a free repair!
Old 11-19-2010 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by joshp14
Open drivers door and on the end of the dash panel pop off the fuse box cover. Check the CIG/ACCY fuse...its probably blown. This fuse provides power to the scan tool. Replace the fuse and take it to autozone again to get the codes checked again and see why the check engine light is on. The check engine light is not related to the SES light.

The oil light was never reset when the oil was changed. Turn your key on and hold the trip/reset button for 12 seconds. This should reset the change oil light.
Also, do yourself a favor and change the oil fresh, top off all applicable fluids, and throw on a brand spankin' new oil filter. You never know how the person before you treated the car, and it's best to start on a new page...

Remember, each time you change the oil you must reset the "Oil Change" light so the system knows.

Seems pretty amicable for the dealership to be helping you out in a timely manner.



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