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Old 01-01-2012, 04:04 PM
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I have a 2001 TA. Yesterday I was coming home and noticed that my drivers side window sounded loose. I got home, took the door panel off, tightened the bolts that were loose, put it back together, went to start my car back up and nothing. Took the door panel back off, checked wiring and connections just for the heck of it and everything is normal. When I turn the key to start I can hear relays and everything under the hood clicking on but the starter is not clicking. I checked all the fuses and relays and they are fine, swapped out ignition and starter fuses and relays to eliminate and still nothing. Started with the basics, pulled the starter relay off and checked voltage of the 4 points, 1 is always hot, 2 goes to the nuetral safety, 3 goes to the bcm and 4 to ther starter. With a person in the car turning the key to start I have power at the always hot point, the bcm point and the neutral safety point but not at the starter point. When I jump power from the always hot point to the starter point with the key in the on position, the car starts. Checked for codes with snap on solus and get a 1626 code of antitheft system fuel enable circuit. One other thing that I shoud mention is that lately I have been having some issues where my radio cuts off randomly and at the same time my windows have no power which I have ssen before as a known bcm issue. The bcm does have a starter enable relay built in but I have never heard of a case where the bcm itself has caused the ta to not start but I guess it is possible. Anyway going through alldata and snap on trouble shooting will take days of labor to go through all of the random possiblities that could be causing this issue and I was just curious if anyone else has had this issue before?
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if the car is a six speed check the clutch pedal switch. is the security light staying on after you try to start it? if it is there is a problem with the VATS. mine does it about twice a year. i need to get a new key i guess.
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For the startimg issue just jump the car. Your battery is on it's last legs and drained down while you were working on the door. ...Then you'l want to get your battery tested.

(Ths has happened to me several times over the years.)
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Its an automatic. Battery is good
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Originally Posted by taguru
Its an automatic. Battery is good
No... its not. Did you try jumping the car?

You can not tell if a battery is good by checking the voltage. (That will only give you an indication of charge.) You need cranking amps - which requires special equipment to test for. As an example, if you take 8 AA batteries and hook them together, you'll get over 12V from them - but they won't be able to start your car.
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It was the lock cylinder and key




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