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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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Im putting new brake rotors and pads on my 2000 SS,

I have always started the bleed process pass rear, drive rear, pass front, drive front

I have however never owned such a new car(old daily was a 78t/a)

I have read all sorts of weird stuff about dealing with the abs unit. I hope to flush the whole system of fluid as I have no idea when it was done last.

But first and foremost ill be bleeding it ***potentially*** when I replace the stuff. I am gonna see if I can just compress the caliper pistons without bleeding the lines, and opening the container lid.

I have read alot of conflicting data all over the internet so anyone know for certain how to achieve my goals?

Brake pedal currently feels great. Only replacing pads and rotor is cause there is alittle vibration when braking and its all OEM stuff.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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Wen I did my brake fluid change I was told you can't get all the fluid out of the ABS unit unless you have some special tool or some **** like that, can't remember. We just kept bleeding and bleeding in the same order you mentioned....until we saw the new fluid coming out. I used a high performance type of fluid and we could easily see the color difference. So at least we knew the entire system was filled with new fluid.....except I guess whatever stays in the ABS unit.

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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LS6427
Wen I did my brake fluid change I was told you can't get all the fluid out of the ABS unit unless you have some special tool or some **** like that, can't remember. We just kept bleeding and bleeding in the same order you mentioned....until we saw the new fluid coming out. I used a high performance type of fluid and we could easily see the color difference. So at least we knew the entire system was filled with new fluid.....except I guess whatever stays in the ABS unit.

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Same thing i did in a non-traction control car.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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I'll be bleeding the same way this weekend. Hopefully, everything goes as planned.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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you bleed this car just like any other car.

nothing special needed
crack one caliper at a time and
hook up a clear bottle with a hose
to the bleeder screw.

with the screw open, have someone
pump the brakes until you see clean
fluid.
make sure you keep an eye on master cylinder
not to go dry.
then bleed them out normally and the system
is now flushed completely.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Nothing special required for ABS cars. The only reason you'd need a Tech 2 is to operate the ABS motors to flush out all the little channels inside the ABS block, which there is really no reason to do. I've bled these brakes just fine a couple times without anything but a power bleeder.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Spartan is correct, no special tools needed for bleeding. Sometimes if a line ruptured you would need the tech 2 to bleed the abs pump but if its just a flush for maint then your in the clear
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Thanks guys, ill just give that a whirl. Glad too hear not everything is super new and crazy.....now to get past the fuel injection bits lol
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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Time for a carb !
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 12:27 AM
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I keep wanting too as my car needs a tune and I have plans to upgrade later meaning another tune and doing it myself or paying it might just be cheaper lol
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 08:20 AM
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Yeah I can fix and diagnose with the best of them and even tune a carb like no ones business but the PCM tuning is a absolute foreign language to me. I dont mind busting out some cash for it lol
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Homeless2bNY
you bleed this car just like any other car.

nothing special needed
crack one caliper at a time and
hook up a clear bottle with a hose
to the bleeder screw.

with the screw open, have someone
pump the brakes until you see clean
fluid.
make sure you keep an eye on master cylinder
not to go dry.
then bleed them out normally and the system
is now flushed completely.
^^^^ This. Worked like a charm yesterday.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Bleeding the brakes is a whole lot easer with a motive power bleeder. Fill it up, bleed away. It doesn't require two people to do it.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by White.Lightning
^^^^ This. Worked like a charm yesterday.
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isn't it cool to see the clean fluid separate
from the dirty? lol
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Homeless2bNY
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isn't it cool to see the clean fluid separate
from the dirty? lol
Mine wasn't "night and day" as I recently siphoned the reservoir and replaced it with new. So my fluid was barely 'dirty'. But yeah, the bleeding method was easy as heck.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartan7
Nothing special required for ABS cars. The only reason you'd need a Tech 2 is to operate the ABS motors to flush out all the little channels inside the ABS block, which there is really no reason to do. I've bled these brakes just fine a couple times without anything but a power bleeder.
I was told that (IF one is OCD enough to think/feel the old fluid stuck in the ABS block makes a difference, or hurts anything) one can do the same thing a Tech 2 does (cycle the ABS system), just by turning the ignition key on and off.

Correct??
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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I have a bleeder kit for my bike, but it doesnt have a pump to vacuum the fluid out. Has anyone used this before?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wmr-w89727
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