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Old 03-15-2018, 12:59 PM
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well I have to admit this was a interesting read, really pays to know electronics.
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Well, the P0122 will still come on briefly and then go away. Driving isn't affected, so at this time I'm going to leave it alone. If that changes I'll give it a go again.

I imagine what's happening is the sensor is operating within normal range but close enough to the border of a code being flagged that the code will pop up periodically without there being a real problem. Kind of like when your catalytic converter is operating at 95% efficiency and occasionally drops to 94%, triggering a code.

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Sounds like you have a bad batch of sensors. If it progressively gets worse again, you might go somewhere else for a new one.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Sounds like you have a bad batch of sensors. If it progressively gets worse again, you might go somewhere else for a new one.
That's what I'm thinking. I normally heavily recommend the ACDelco OEM line of parts but they must have a gerbil doing the QC for the throttle position sensors. I've still got some sensors leftover from Advance Auto's mistake of sending of 6 but if I run through those I'm getting a different brand, like Wells.
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Originally Posted by TheNutDriver
For LS1 Tps idle voltage should be 0.47-0.55 volts and no more than 4.69 at WOT. otherwise you'll be getting the P0122.

Are you within this voltage range!??

I’ve read through the through and it seems not?(
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Originally Posted by coryforsenate
I normally heavily recommend the ACDelco OEM line of parts but they must have a gerbil doing the QC for the throttle position sensors.
The other thing is that AC Delco parts are no longer GM parts. Only "GM Parts" are GM Parts. Delco is totally separate now.

Like on the Manual Transmission. A GM Slave Cylinder keeps us rolling. An AC Delco Slave Cylinder forces us to leave the car in a ditch somewhere.
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TheNutDriver, I think one of the sensors had right at 0.50 at closed but I can't find my paper with notes, might've gotten thrown away. When I looked up the voltage for my specific vehicle, I kept finding it should be about 0.60 for closed throttle.

If it regresses back to the same problem I'll compare the voltages on the 3 sensors I have left.

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*sigh*

Well, it's back again along with all the driveability issues like rough shifts and rough idle. Tried another one of the new ACDelco OEM sensors and no change. Time to troubleshoot again...
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Just humour me and try setting it to 0.50 at idle and see what happens. Your symptoms are exactly what I had 18 months ago. In the end the only tps I could find which came good quality was a standard motor products one. All others were junk right out the box including AC Delco professional ones. Once I got rid of my 0.7v idle and had a decent sensor my fault code cleared and never came back and my shifts were once again smooth.
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TheNutDriver, I'll give you a whole comedy show. I did say if it came back that'd I'd try your suggestions.

How do I set the voltage at idle? The sensor for my vehicle is not adjustable like more modern vehicle (mine's a '96). There's a pin (circled in red) that fits into a hole and the fit is rigid. That's not the exact sensor but other than that little metal pin sticking out of the metal circle, it's identical.

I did do some data logging while driving home from work. Like previously, the TPS closed (e.g. stop sign) will bounce around between 0% and 2-3%.



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I found the TPS from Standard Motor Products on Amazon for my vehicle. I'd be willing to try one from them out. It's actually a little cheaper than ACDelco, Dorman, and Wells.
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To set the voltage you have to cut off that pin and elongate the screw holes.
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Is this an LS1??
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Originally Posted by TheNutDriver
To set the voltage you have to cut off that pin and elongate the screw holes.
Clever idea for adjusting it. I'll give it a go tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by TheNutDriver
Is this an LS1??
You know, I honestly don't know how to tell or find out whether it's LS1, LT, or etc

It's a 5.7L 350c V8 engine, year 1996.
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Originally Posted by coryforsenate
You know, I honestly don't know how to tell or find out whether it's LS1, LT, or etc

It's a 5.7L 350c V8 engine, year 1996.
If it’s 96 it’ll be LT1 and so the procedure for setting the TPS and voltages is different.
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So, the latest new one I put on yesterday is working now (for now). I've got a modded one with that pin removed and the holes widened to swap in if (or when) it goes to crap.
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Sorry about forgetting to update this.

So multiple AC Delco oem throttle position sensors later, turns out they were all defective. Some worked for a couple days, some didn't work ever. I was able to try 6 of them because Amazon sent me one box of six sensors instead of just one sensor. All bad.

Whatever factory Acdelco hired to make their TP sensors is doing a $%@! job with quality control.

I got a Wells sensor. Heard good things about them. Instantly started working perfectly. My truck hasn't run this smoothly in a long time. No shuddering, high idles, rough shifting. Everything is like butter.

What was the issue with the Delco ones? Not sure exactly but scanner hookup showed all of them had a jiggle of about +/- 3% of the signal at idle. I don't know if that's normal but strolling around town is around 20-30% of signal so that error is a decent chunk of the signal.

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Thanks for posting back.
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Originally Posted by coryforsenate
Sorry about forgetting to update this.

So multiple AC Delco oem throttle position sensors later, turns out they were all defective. Some worked for a couple days, some didn't work ever. I was able to try 6 of them because Amazon sent me one box of six sensors instead of just one sensor. All bad.

Whatever factory Acdelco hired to make their TP sensors is doing a $%@! job with quality control.

I got a Wells sensor. Heard good things about them. Instantly started working perfectly. My truck hasn't run this smoothly in a long time. No shuddering, high idles, rough shifting. Everything is like butter.

What was the issue with the Delco ones? Not sure exactly but scanner hookup showed all of them had a jiggle of about +/- 3% of the signal at idle. I don't know if that's normal but strolling around town is around 20-30% of signal so that error is a decent chunk of the signal.
Do you have the part number of the Wells Sensor? I've looked on Amazon and there are thousands... Oh wait, you said you had a truck. I have a 2000 Trans Am.



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