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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 04:14 PM
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My search here revealed results from 5+ years ago so just in case there is something new, here is my minor problem. I get a quick smell of coolant when I start the car after it's been driven sometimes. Usually the vent is on which may bring the odor into the cabin. I also notice it briefly in the garage when I pull in but it dissipates rapidly. I was thinking overflow reservoir but went to my mechanic to check it out properly. He smelled it too upon start-up but found nothing. He did a pressure test (radiator) and no issues. No leaks. He said all the hoses were fine. He then checked the water pump for signs of leaking, even dried on stains, but again nothing. He said don't worry about it until you see a leak or it gets worse. I'm inclined to agree but it's definitely something, because it wasn't there before, just not sure what. Why would the overflow start smelling all of a sudden? I switched away from Dexcool many years ago so it isn't related to that. A minor mystery but I'm quite particular with my cars and certainly curious.
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 07:43 PM
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It could be the cap or a slow leak at the steam vents or heater core. I'd put a small amount of coolant stop leak in it and see if that makes a difference.
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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 12:10 PM
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heater core??
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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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I wouldn't use stop leak products, I'm not a fan of adding gunk to the cooling system.

Sounds like the leak is too small to leave any staining at this point. I'd keep an eye on the coolant level. Small leaks at the water pump don't always leave staining or cause any dripping when the engine is not running (e.g. no puddles in the garage, etc.) so, while it might not yet be identifiable, I wouldn't rule out the water pump at this point. But, as mentioned above, it could be coming from a variety of potential sources.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:01 AM
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Thank you very much for the responses. I certainly appreciate the advice. The coolant level does NOT go down and I have had no need at all to add any. I imagine the heater core would be tough to identify as far as a minor leak. Anything visible to watch for? Thanks again.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:25 AM
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The coolant 'overflow' tank is not a sealed unit, it has to be able to 'breathe' as coolant from the coolant system is either expelled or sucked back in by the radiator. The air in the overflow tank is going to have a coolant odor and as it's vented outward, it's very easy to sense.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstYrLS1Z
The coolant 'overflow' tank is not a sealed unit, it has to be able to 'breathe' as coolant from the coolant system is either expelled or sucked back in by the radiator. The air in the overflow tank is going to have a coolant odor and as it's vented outward, it's very easy to sense.
Thank you for responding so quick. I totally understand your logic and agree. Just noticing this smell recently after nearly two decades of ownership is the question. I was also thinking, perhaps the reservoir screw-on cap isn't as snug as before. It is just plastic and the screw threads could be getting worse every time I check the level. I didn't think of asking the mechanic about that and he didn't mention it.
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 11:36 AM
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. I imagine the heater core would be tough to identify as far as a minor leak. Anything visible to watch for? Thanks again.
Damp PS carpet of moisture/coolant up under the dash

...and immediately replace the reservoir cap to rule that in/out as a source out...they are a "wear" item
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NC01TA
The coolant level does NOT go down and I have had no need at all to add any.
So then the leak is either VERY small at this point, or it is in fact a whiff from the expansion tank as hot coolant enters and displaces air. But my concern is then this:

Originally Posted by NC01TA
Just noticing this smell recently after nearly two decades of ownership is the question.
It's certainly possible that the expansion tank cap has become marginal, as this is obviously a new occurrence that you would've noticed years ago were it "normal". The original overflow cap on my '98 has become slightly warped over the years, and requires a bit of careful threading to seat properly. However, even with this flaw present, I don't ever catch a whiff of coolant when the engine is running or otherwise. But, as mentioned above, I agree with replacing the cap if you feel it's not properly snug, just to rule it out if nothing else.

I'd still keep an eye on coolant level though, especially if a new cap doesn't fix it. To catch a whiff of this (even without a visible leak present or enough loss to require adding some fluid) could suggest that it's a very tiny amount quickly burning off on a hot surface, leaving no trace but an odor.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Sounds like the leak is too small to leave any staining at this point. I'd keep an eye on the coolant level. Small leaks at the water pump don't always leave staining or cause any dripping when the engine is not running (e.g. no puddles in the garage, etc.) so, while it might not yet be identifiable, I wouldn't rule out the water pump at this point.
^This. My A4 car had this symptom long before anything visible could be seen and a noticeable water pump leak developed. My M6 car has had it for a few years, but no issues. I've added coolant once I think over the past several years.

The leak is so small at this point that it burns off immediately, leaving no visible trace, only the odor.
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 07:58 AM
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Outstanding help here and very much appreciated. Thank you!
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 10:22 AM
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When my heater core went out, it went from first smelling coolant to fogging my windows an hour and 45 miles later.
I too would not use additives in your coolant from personal experience. You could not only stop a leak, but also stop proper coolant flow - thus overheating.
If you think it might be the heater core, and you want to rule it out, you could by pass it with an 8 dollar U-hose and 10 minutes of work to put it on.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 08:45 PM
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They put coolant sealing tablets in the systems when they are built. A small amount of stop leak isn't going to plug the system. Dumping an entire can in might cause an issue.
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You know...what you could do...and I'm probably crazy saying this.

Pressurize the coolant system and see if it holds. If not, start looking for why.

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Old Mar 21, 2020 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
You know...what you could do...and I'm probably crazy saying this.

Pressurize the coolant system and see if it holds. If not, start looking for why.
Yeah, it was one of the first things done by my mechanic (post #1). No issues.
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Originally Posted by wannafbody
It could be the cap or a slow leak at the steam vents or heater core..
+1 on this
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