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Old Jul 22, 2025 | 10:41 AM
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About a week after I got my '98 Camaro back from the shop for a cam sensor replacement, the check engine gauges light has started flickering and fading in and out. Not a steady repeating blinking like with a misfire. It can be on somewhat solid, and while driving and idling the flickering pattern will change. Poor ground? something else?

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Old Jul 22, 2025 | 11:10 AM
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I would scan the code and look it up. I'm sure it's saved.
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Old Jul 22, 2025 | 11:11 AM
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First off I'd check for codes. If you have a code, then it is supposed to just be solid on, and it is possible the bulb (or LED, I forget which it is) is loose and/or going bad, causing it to flicker.

If you have no codes then start digging into wiring issues.
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According to rockauto the 1998, uses a different cam position sensor. From 99 to 02 different part numbers.

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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 01:46 PM
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Typo, I meant check gauges light.
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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 02:45 PM
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How does the voltmeter look when this is happening?
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Old Jul 25, 2025 | 03:07 PM
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Voltmeter gauge looks normal, not in the red, steady around 12'o'clock position. I haven't scanned the PCM voltage or performed a charging system check, but I'm taking it into the shop tomorrow AM. I swear they commented to me they found something unusual with the alternator wiring and had to make changes, but it's not on the invoice or text messages.

I do have this Mechman alternator, maybe they messed up this custom blue/green/yellow harness.
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They also found corrosion inside the OEM engine harness, and I'm not finding a way to buy new or rebuild it, any ideas without swapping to '99+ PCM?
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Only time I've ever had a "flickering" check gauges light is when voltage was dipping just barely into the red (and that was a wiring issue in my case). But my voltmeter confirmed this, so there was no question as to the source.

Does oil pressure also look good and steady?

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They also found corrosion inside the OEM engine harness, and I'm not finding a way to buy new or rebuild it, any ideas without swapping to '99+ PCM?
What do you mean by "corrosion inside the OEM engine harness"? What is meant by "inside"? Are you referring to the actual pins where the PCM connects to the harness? There is a gasket there, and I seem to recall reading somewhere that this gasket is supposed to be changed any time that the PCM harness is disconnected (not sure how many folks actually do that, but I recall it being recommended somewhere in the service manual - if this wasn't done, and this is where the corrosion is, then it might explain why there is corrosion).

But either way, if there is corrosion at various vital connection points and/or marginal wiring/connectors, etc., then I would certainly start there in terms of any electrical diagnostics.
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The photos show corrosion on the bare wires after stripping them for repair. I'll attach from my phone.
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What happened to initially compromise the insulation (i.e. why was it being repaired in the first place)? Was there an event with rodents, or did something partially melt from a short or contact with exhaust, etc.? Was the car in a flood event?

Just trying to figure out how deep the issue might run. If it's just one wire or one area, I don't think you need a whole new engine harness.
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Old Jul 25, 2025 | 04:10 PM
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It's never been flooded... once in a while I'm forced to drive in heavy rain. Hydralocked the original engine in roughly 2000. The car spends most of its life outdoors. No known rodent issues. Had a fire ant infestation years ago. A couple symptoms happened about the same time early this year... brake master coupling broke, emptying reservoir. But after the repair it still ran rougher than normal. A few days later it seemed down on power, thought it was related to recent brake repair. Had noise in the B2 valve train, found a loose rocker arm & broken aftermarket rocker arm bolt. I found both ends of the bolt in the top of the head and repaired that. Still won't run so I tow it back. They find a few different things... broken cam position sensor, damaged knock sensor connectors due to header heat, 'stretched' Hinson C7 timing chain, shorts in the #4/#5/#8 injector/ignition harness, etc. While putting the car back together they stumbled across the harness concern.
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Old Jul 26, 2025 | 12:08 PM
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The shop could duplicate the check gauges issue but couldn't locate any wiring faults in the engine bay, and alternator is connected per diagram. I do have all LED bulbs behind the dash, I guess I can try swapping the bulb in that area. Will also review Helms manual. They did ask a couple questions whose answers escaped me whether are normal behavior.
1) OP gauge, when engine stopped and key immediately to off, gauge doesn't drop to zero, key on/off again psi goes to 0.
2) fuel level drops a little (1/8-1/4) on key off, goes back up on key on.
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The insulation must've been compromised somehow, perhaps by heat, but it stands to reason that other wires in the area might be compromised too (especially since you mentioned shorts in the injector & ignition harness). Still though, it's a big job to re-wire the whole engine bay. Not sure if that's needed if everything is working now other than a flickering check gauges light (perhaps it does have to do with the LED cluster bulb(s)?

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1) OP gauge, when engine stopped and key immediately to off, gauge doesn't drop to zero, key on/off again psi goes to 0.
2) fuel level drops a little (1/8-1/4) on key off, goes back up on key on.
This is exactly how the gauges in my stock, very low mile (19K) '98 Z28 have always behaved. The only gauges that zero out on immediate "key off" is the voltmeter and tach. Fuel gauge drifts down just a bit as you described, and the OP gauge actually drifts up just a touch usually.
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
About a week after I got my '98 Camaro back from the shop for a cam sensor replacement, the check engine gauges light has started flickering and fading in and out. Not a steady repeating blinking like with a misfire. It can be on somewhat solid, and while driving and idling the flickering pattern will change. Poor ground? something else?
Could be a harmless glitch, if it's while you are idling and the cam is loping and surging some. It's probably related to the voltage gauge or oil pressure dropping down under the minimum for a split second
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Old Aug 7, 2025 | 12:02 PM
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It only began after the car was returned to me after the cam position sensor repair, that's why I'm suspicious.
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