cure for detonation?
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cure for detonation? I have a fairly bad detonation problem on my z.. i always run 93 octane gas from good, busy service stations, and i always change my oil before 3000 miles. My car runs great, but it sounds like detonation at WOT. It gets a LOT worse in hot weather. the other day, my friend and i were racing around a bit in town and it was about 95* if not hotter, and it sounded like my car was breaking apart inside it was so loud when i got on it hard in first gear. after the one run, i didnt run it hard anymore, being that it was the loudest i've ever heard detonation in my car. i have ordered MSD 8.5mm wires and NGK TR6 plugs which should be in tomarrow or tuesday, do any of you think this may cure part of it? what else can be done? will a good dyno tune take care of it?
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i'm installing the TR6 plugs, so hopefully that will help it some.
edit: i'm only going to use a "catch can" as a last resort.. i dont want an ugly *** can in my engine bay.
edit: i'm only going to use a "catch can" as a last resort.. i dont want an ugly *** can in my engine bay.
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Originally Posted by Sunset'01Z
i'm installing the TR6 plugs, so hopefully that will help it some.
edit: i'm only going to use a "catch can" as a last resort.. i dont want an ugly *** can in my engine bay.
edit: i'm only going to use a "catch can" as a last resort.. i dont want an ugly *** can in my engine bay.
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Are you absolutly sure its detonation? I thought I had detonation, I had all the tell tale signs (only when hot, in the high RPMs, it sounded like marbles or beebees in a tin jar). It turns out its one of my 02 sensor covers, it was loose (not printed). My friend and I printed it, and now theres no noise at all. I assume that the metal around it exapanded when it was hot, and then would rattle from the engine vibration at high RPMs.
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i would get someone to scan your car to see whats up.
sounds like u might need a good top end cleaning, also a catch can to keep any oil from going into the intake.
My car wasnt as bad but was pining slightly under wot and under low rpm loads. I believe the top end cleaner from the gm dealer and catch can helped quite a bit.
I will find out when i get back on a dyno / computer being scanned as well.
sounds like u might need a good top end cleaning, also a catch can to keep any oil from going into the intake.
My car wasnt as bad but was pining slightly under wot and under low rpm loads. I believe the top end cleaner from the gm dealer and catch can helped quite a bit.
I will find out when i get back on a dyno / computer being scanned as well.
I'm thinking I have the same problem. I get a rattley tingey sound at WOT especially when it's hot outside. I can only hear it if the windows are down.
The thing is though... I already have an AMW catch can. I'm running MSD wires with TR55GP plugs gapped at .050.
What is top end cleaner? Like Sea-Foam? I've been using Sea-Foam every oil change and it always blows lots and lots of smoke.
Wassup with my car?
The thing is though... I already have an AMW catch can. I'm running MSD wires with TR55GP plugs gapped at .050.
What is top end cleaner? Like Sea-Foam? I've been using Sea-Foam every oil change and it always blows lots and lots of smoke.
Wassup with my car?
Seems a few people on here are having the same problem. Including me. I have yet to change or even look at the spark plugs. I did install a homeade catch can that consisted of a piece from my airbrush compressor. It is designed to remove water vapor from the air so I thought I would give it a try in the PCV system. It is close to 90* today and I am definitely still getting the detonation at WOT. It was the worst I have heard it today because of the heat.
I will check for rattling shields but I really dont think that is what it is. It sounds BAD. Not like something rattling but more like something crackling. It seems the more load the engine is under, and the hotter the weather, the more it makes the noise. It gets really bad in 3rd gear but today it was so bad it even did it in 1st. I am going to take it easy and I really want to get my car scanned ASAP.
I have replaced the fuel filter, changed oil, and always used 93 octane (also tried different gas companies). Plug wires are MSD super conductors. Also, I have no service engine lights.
Someone help us!
I will check for rattling shields but I really dont think that is what it is. It sounds BAD. Not like something rattling but more like something crackling. It seems the more load the engine is under, and the hotter the weather, the more it makes the noise. It gets really bad in 3rd gear but today it was so bad it even did it in 1st. I am going to take it easy and I really want to get my car scanned ASAP.
I have replaced the fuel filter, changed oil, and always used 93 octane (also tried different gas companies). Plug wires are MSD super conductors. Also, I have no service engine lights.
Someone help us!
Try also changing WHERE you buy your gas...I use to just stop off at the local Diamond Shamrock/Valeo station and I had a pretty good detonation problem..
I tried cleaning my MAF and it didn't help much...I bought my gas at an EXXON and there is no more detonation (93 octane BTW).
All of this in *100+ temps (If you like HEAT,you will LOVE South Texas!
).
I tried cleaning my MAF and it didn't help much...I bought my gas at an EXXON and there is no more detonation (93 octane BTW).
All of this in *100+ temps (If you like HEAT,you will LOVE South Texas!
). Could it be an exhaust leak? Because my old formula did the same thing and I KNOW it had an exhaust leak because there were 2 manifold bolts missing. Tomorrow I will check the bolts. Just something else to think about.
I get my gas at different places and it still does it. I am going to drive my moms 99 TA and see if hers does it.
I get my gas at different places and it still does it. I am going to drive my moms 99 TA and see if hers does it.
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Originally Posted by Tobynine9
How do you print the O2 covers? Mine are loose, I know that for sure. You can sometimes hear them rattling at idle.
All we did was take some needle nose plyers(or a tool similar, sorry im no mechanic) and squeezed the metal down on the 02 sensor.
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Originally Posted by Fire-formula 93
Seems a few people on here are having the same problem. Including me. I have yet to change or even look at the spark plugs. I did install a homeade catch can that consisted of a piece from my airbrush compressor. It is designed to remove water vapor from the air so I thought I would give it a try in the PCV system. It is close to 90* today and I am definitely still getting the detonation at WOT. It was the worst I have heard it today because of the heat.
I will check for rattling shields but I really dont think that is what it is. It sounds BAD. Not like something rattling but more like something crackling. It seems the more load the engine is under, and the hotter the weather, the more it makes the noise. It gets really bad in 3rd gear but today it was so bad it even did it in 1st. I am going to take it easy and I really want to get my car scanned ASAP.
I have replaced the fuel filter, changed oil, and always used 93 octane (also tried different gas companies). Plug wires are MSD super conductors. Also, I have no service engine lights.
Someone help us!
I will check for rattling shields but I really dont think that is what it is. It sounds BAD. Not like something rattling but more like something crackling. It seems the more load the engine is under, and the hotter the weather, the more it makes the noise. It gets really bad in 3rd gear but today it was so bad it even did it in 1st. I am going to take it easy and I really want to get my car scanned ASAP.
I have replaced the fuel filter, changed oil, and always used 93 octane (also tried different gas companies). Plug wires are MSD super conductors. Also, I have no service engine lights.
Someone help us!
Definetly check for loose exhaust components and heat shields etc. Mine was a very metalic knocking/poping/pinging sound, would also do it in 1st on a hot day, and only under WOT.
Damn cars are friggen weird...
I checked all things that could rattle. I took a vice grip to the end of all the O2 sensors because they rattled a little and I also took off the spark plug wire heat shields because they were rattling and quite loose on the MSD wires.
Could it be the catalytic convertors breaking apart inside?
Could it be the catalytic convertors breaking apart inside?