please tell me what i need to fix this car (pics of a totaled trans am here..)
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If you were here in IL I'd say the best thing to do with that car is contact:
Victory Auto Wreckers
710 E. Green St.
Bensenville, IL
(630) 860-2000
Victory Auto Wreckers
710 E. Green St.
Bensenville, IL
(630) 860-2000
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dude im gonna tell you this speaking from experience. and a lot of experience at that. thatc ars NOT worth fixing. its hit at a vERY bad aplce. youd need to cut it past the shock tower to fix it and its hit near th fuse block which is very bad. im not quite sure what tot ell you besides part it out. but its simply to much damage for soemone to bother fixing. it could be done, understand that but what it would take in terms of parts/labor/time would be far from worth it.
and heres a few major things you need to consider:
That firewall amy be bent up badly
the unibody DID suffer some serious frame damage
The opposite side of the car also took some amjor imapct from where it swung over, that will throw everything on the otherside way off as well
sorry bro
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and heres a few major things you need to consider:
That firewall amy be bent up badly
the unibody DID suffer some serious frame damage
The opposite side of the car also took some amjor imapct from where it swung over, that will throw everything on the otherside way off as well
sorry bro
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here I want you to look at this. very basic MS paint grid but I boxed in the motor. look how the motor itself is pushed to one side and how far off the rails are from libing up w/ anything. this should show you much of the damage that you wont see without taking off the rest of the pannels.
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rats..
so i guess i am going to try to get a v6 roller
is there any reason why i cant use a 93-97 car?
i plan to put my hatch on and buy a front bumper from yearone
will it look the same after?
..unless i start liking the sleeper look
or what about a 3rd gen? they are $300-1000 everywhere over here.
so i guess i am going to try to get a v6 roller
is there any reason why i cant use a 93-97 car?
i plan to put my hatch on and buy a front bumper from yearone
will it look the same after?
..unless i start liking the sleeper look
or what about a 3rd gen? they are $300-1000 everywhere over here.
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Originally Posted by Stone0fFire
rats..
so i guess i am going to try to get a v6 roller
is there any reason why i cant use a 93-97 car?
i plan to put my hatch on and buy a front bumper from yearone
will it look the same after?
..unless i start liking the sleeper look
or what about a 3rd gen? they are $300-1000 everywhere over here.
so i guess i am going to try to get a v6 roller
is there any reason why i cant use a 93-97 car?
i plan to put my hatch on and buy a front bumper from yearone
will it look the same after?
..unless i start liking the sleeper look
or what about a 3rd gen? they are $300-1000 everywhere over here.
the 93-97 structure is identical to the 98-02 cars
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Originally Posted by Tainted
the 93-97 structure is identical to the 98-02 cars
The LT1 style has a hole punched for the wiring harness near the left fender. It doesn't have a heatshield near the trans tunnel on the drivers side. The LT1 style chassis has shorter bumper stop tower deals for the bumper which the hood rests on. Also, it doesn't have the indent in it for the motor control acutator associated with ASR.
I could go on.
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
Take a sawsall to the A pillars and drill out all the spot welds on the first factory seam where the trans tunnel starts. Replace there. Easiest way to do it without worrying about alingment stuff.
1/2ing cars is NOT an acceptale way to make repairs now adays
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The factory body is put together to where they are tons of seams throughout the vehicle.
You can't cut and weld the frame rails. It won't work. Too many layers. You can't get them all. It won't handle the same. The body of the car is fewer layers and if you take it apart at the factory seam on both your car and the donor car you can make it just as good as factory. The car will handle better.
The body itself is made of componets. It isn't a magic one sheet of metal you know.
Don't make judgements until you have a car to show for yourself that runs straight down the road. Funny, how on the internet everyone is a genious in every area yet they never prove it.
You can't cut and weld the frame rails. It won't work. Too many layers. You can't get them all. It won't handle the same. The body of the car is fewer layers and if you take it apart at the factory seam on both your car and the donor car you can make it just as good as factory. The car will handle better.
The body itself is made of componets. It isn't a magic one sheet of metal you know.
Don't make judgements until you have a car to show for yourself that runs straight down the road. Funny, how on the internet everyone is a genious in every area yet they never prove it.
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
Actually, there are differences!
The LT1 style has a hole punched for the wiring harness near the left fender. It doesn't have a heatshield near the trans tunnel on the drivers side. The LT1 style chassis has shorter bumper stop tower deals for the bumper which the hood rests on. Also, it doesn't have the indent in it for the motor control acutator associated with ASR.
I could go on.
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The LT1 style has a hole punched for the wiring harness near the left fender. It doesn't have a heatshield near the trans tunnel on the drivers side. The LT1 style chassis has shorter bumper stop tower deals for the bumper which the hood rests on. Also, it doesn't have the indent in it for the motor control acutator associated with ASR.
I could go on.
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Wasnt aware of those little things, but lets face it, that all could be done with minor work involved. the dimensions are the same for 93-02 unless the crash books are wrong
A new wiring ahrness hole can be made, and old one could be covered. Heatsheild can be put on. as for the bumper stops which part are you talking about exactly? The 2 beams that come out that ahve the bumper support bolted to it?
If so you can drill uot the welds of the ends and have the new version welded on, no biggie there. and for the ASR thing, it could be dented in without to much work.
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forget the 3rd gen
i am seeing fireturds on autotrader for less than $3k
some for even $2k
thats already the cost of the body PANELS
(passenger quarter, both fenders, front bumper.. the fricken WINDSHIELD)
i know it will be cheaper to get a v6 now.
thanks guys
at least i know where to go from here.
i am seeing fireturds on autotrader for less than $3k
some for even $2k
thats already the cost of the body PANELS
(passenger quarter, both fenders, front bumper.. the fricken WINDSHIELD)
i know it will be cheaper to get a v6 now.
thanks guys
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at least i know where to go from here.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
Wasnt aware of those little things, but lets face it, that all could be done with minor work involved. the dimensions are the same for 93-02 unless the crash books are wrong
A new wiring ahrness hole can be made, and old one could be covered. Heatsheild can be put on. as for the bumper stops which part are you talking about exactly? The 2 beams that come out that ahve the bumper support bolted to it?
If so you can drill uot the welds of the ends and have the new version welded on, no biggie there. and for the ASR thing, it could be dented in without to much work.
A new wiring ahrness hole can be made, and old one could be covered. Heatsheild can be put on. as for the bumper stops which part are you talking about exactly? The 2 beams that come out that ahve the bumper support bolted to it?
If so you can drill uot the welds of the ends and have the new version welded on, no biggie there. and for the ASR thing, it could be dented in without to much work.
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
Obviously, you have never done body work. The body itself is made of componets. It isn't a magic one sheet of metal you know.
Bewarned just because this is the internet doesn't mean that there won't be someone who knows how to do quality work lurking about.
repairing a car by slicing the middle of an a pillar is the WRONG way to repair the car
i have no problem with people clipping a car, but do it by replacing entire parts, not by cutting a panel (such as a windsheild post) down the middle and welding it back together. this can cause overly strong / overly weak sections to a panel which can have adverse effects on the cars impact protection, be it a side impact, or a roll over, or anything else
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
I was just playing with you, dude. No harsh feelings here. Just looking for a convo.
so a conversation huh?
Hows this. ive been sick since friday with an upper respriratory infection, how have you been?
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again,
ive found a few birds *in this area*
for cheap
BUT what aboot the radiator/cooling system?
will the v6 radiator support the mighty ellis juan?
i have a feeling it wont,
and Be-Cool is asking $1700 for one of theirs.
almost as much as the damn v6 car.
good thing i can sell the engine to my buddy who burnt his engine.
(he's asking too much for his 96 turd even though its got a blown motor and a dent.)
anyone know if the v6 and ls1 auto trans radiator are the same?
i mean..
if i can use a v6 auto trans radiator on an ls1?
ive found a few birds *in this area*
for cheap
BUT what aboot the radiator/cooling system?
will the v6 radiator support the mighty ellis juan?
i have a feeling it wont,
and Be-Cool is asking $1700 for one of theirs.
almost as much as the damn v6 car.
good thing i can sell the engine to my buddy who burnt his engine.
(he's asking too much for his 96 turd even though its got a blown motor and a dent.)
anyone know if the v6 and ls1 auto trans radiator are the same?
i mean..
if i can use a v6 auto trans radiator on an ls1?
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today i was looking at my friends 96 and i noticed it has not only a crappy looking pointy front end but the lights were different. and i dont know if the 98+ WS6 hood will be compatible. that is almost reason enough to pay $1000 more for the 98+
those pants? thats heavy metal! just look at those hd stompers too..
those pants? thats heavy metal! just look at those hd stompers too..