Magnus357

StevieZ,

We are ALL really glad that you'll defend Royal Purple so much; however, you WILL NOT convince a single soul here who hasn't already paided WAY too much for an oil that FROM ALL AVALIABLE DATA looks to be no better than a quality synthetic.

But really, the only data you have is "he said, she said" stuff. Get me a quote from a Royal Purple employee about the degerents and anti-wear properties of their racing oil, and make sure that if I ask for that person that he or she will tell me the same thing.

Secondly, get me an oil anaylsis test on some of this mystical 'best oil available' that proves it is such. Some comments taken out of context from an oil anaylsis person hardly count as physical evidence. Those cheesy bar graphs on RP's site about viscosity and anti-wear don't mean crap so I don't want those either.

ALL of the oil tests I can find show that RP is NOT up to the task of being considered an ultra-high-preformance oil, and in fact that their street oils may be WAY below par.

Until you have data from an independent source that differs from the data I have from MULTIPLE indenpendent sources, you can do little good to convice me or anyone else.

- Matt <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />

<small>[ August 01, 2002, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: Magnus357 ]</small>

StevieZ

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Magnus ...now you are starting to get really boring
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">you WILL NOT convince a single soul here who hasn't already paided WAY too much for an oil that FROM ALL AVALIABLE DATA looks to be no better than a quality synthetic. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's all I ever said it was....I didn't say it's a magical potion. It is the best quality synthetic I have tried so far.

You obviously read about as well as you write because you surely missed the positive comments quoted from Terry Dyson, the guru who has been doing everyone's analysis.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ALL of the oil tests I can find show that RP is NOT up to the task of being considered an ultra-high-preformance oil, and in fact that their street oils may be WAY below par.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All one or two? LOL
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Until you have data from an independent source that differs from the data I have from MULTIPLE indenpendent sources, you can do little good to convice me or anyone else.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am not trying to convince you or anyone else. I couldn't care less what you think and whether you use it or not.
You seem to have missed the point of this whole argument.

<small>[ August 01, 2002, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: StevieZ ]</small>

Magnus357

Well without insulting your intelligence, I'll ask you to re-read my post.

I specificly mention your use of Terry's comments; however, I feel they are out of context. Write him back and ask him if he thinks Royal Purple is the "best quality synthetic" avaliable. Because if he says it is, by your logic it has to be.

So your opinion is that RP is just a quality synthetic? Well quite frankly, anything costing me more per quart than Mobil 1 or Max Life damn well better be MUCH better. Therefore, I refer to oils of the likes of Redline to be ultra-high-preformance oils. I haven't studied the Schaeffers oil enough to talk about it, but *sounding like a broken record here in an attempt to get it across* until I see an oil analysis on RP with numbers that *SHOW* that is capiable to be termed an ultra-high-preformance oil, I'll tell people to spend their hard earned dollars on better deals.

- Matt <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />

EDIT: I mispelled intelligence <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" />

<small>[ August 01, 2002, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: Magnus357 ]</small>

StevieZ

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So your opinion is that RP is just a quality synthetic? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No My opinion is that it is the best I have tried to date.
Really though, enough about oil, I'm going for a drive.
I really think the point has been made.

Patman

Terry doesn't use RP by the way, so he obviously doesn't think it's the best out there. Last I heard he may have been trying out Schaeffers in one of his cars! Although I also know he's cooking up his own custom blend oil too.

Blue Fire

well patman take it how you want to friend and im not being mean to eather if you. im also not takeing side's of anybody here but i do belive in using a good oil i dont care if it cost 10$ a slug im bying it... i do how every belive in using the Schaeffers Oil. i never tryed it yet and i heard that it kick's *** tho now im using the Royal Purple 5/30W. i dont like changeing Oil's to get sludge in there. my first oil was the factory oil than Moble 1 10/30 than thay stop makeing the Try Syn. so now i had to move to the Moble 1 Super Syn 5/30 and now to the RP 5/30. i am willing to try anything if it is good. how every this is my first time bying RP and i am well happy with it. the Motor run's ***so much smother*** and it's like it's hardly started. no miss or anything.i have to say this tho by far this is the best oil i have every usded so far as far other people i can say this people

if you are looking for a nother oil like me and trying to get the bang for the buck dont go by what im saying. im just the kind of gye i alway's was like this to spend money on the good ****. i was alway's the odd ball out the bunch. my world spin's around a car and raceing and computer's.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> i would not put anything up here to hurt no one or to make them go to something that thay would not like. if you are thanking about trying RP it's a good Oil... i was shocked by how good it make's your car run and i would not say anything to hurt people by pushing them to by something thay might not be happy about... ***rember people with 4 of these's Oil's you are dealing with 4 of the best top of the line oil's out there so weach every one you pick you wont go wrong <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Firebird]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" />

Blue Fire

Yo did you every get the test done on that oil there was a debate going on what's the best oil between Royal Purple,Red Line,Amsoil Moble 1.i was wandering?¿?

OBSSSD

I have 2600 miles on my RP 10W-30. I'll get it tested at 3,000 miles and we'll see how it turns out. I'm trying Redline next time in 10W-30 because of the continued good props from all of the analyses I've seen on this board.

I like the RP and I'd say it's a good oil but I'm not sure that the regular non racing RP oils are up to the level of Redline's street oils. We'll see soon enough...

DinoZ

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Why not just go with a cheaper oil, like Mobil 1, and just change it every 3000 miles... then you don't have to worry about it. Or has the world gotten that lazy where people feel the need to leave their oil in for 10,000 miles? Sheeeesh! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Changing your oil every 3000 miles has been the norm' for about 412 years; I have yet to see an engine that had negative issues when the oil/filter was always fresh.

Country Boy

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I agree with DinoZ. I change my oil every 2500 miles because I sometimes use N2O. No as I understand Patman, youre just wasting your money if you change a synthetic before 5 or 6k miles, right? Why? Are you saying that 5k oil is just as good as my 2500 oil? Ive never understood that arguement that Patman has <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Oil doesnt get better with age. Just dont be lazy and cheap and change it sooner.

Patman

It's not a matter of laziness. It's simple. The oil is not protecting your engine any less at 6000 miles than it will be at 3000 miles (in the case of a good synthetic that is) Oil analysis proves this. So my point is, why change it out when it's still doing it's job perfectly fine? Too many people think that 3k is the way to go, mainly because you've all been brainwashed by Jiffy Lube and by past practices. Sure, there was a time when 3k oil changes were necessary, when oils weren't as good, when filtration wasn't as good, and when engines allowed more contaminents into the oil. But nowadays, things have changed. It's sad that so many people have not changed with the times. I'm just trying to save you guys money, and educate you. When you start looking at oil analysis results and honestly see how good of a condition an oil is in after longer drains, that's when you'll believe.

<small>[ August 06, 2002, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Patman ]</small>

DinoZ

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Why would I want to buy oil that costs $50+ per change, when I could buy 6qts for $23< when it's only going to get me another 2000 miles?
There's no way in hell I would leave my oil in for more than 5000 miles... I don't care if Saint Antny, patron saint of auto mechanics, came down himself and said that it's ok! There's just no way! There's alot of sand, dust, and other cooties floating around the air down here and who knows exactly what's in the fuel, and the longer the oil is in the car, the more junk is in the oil.

<small>[ August 06, 2002, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: DinoZ ]</small>

Patman

How do you know all that stuff is in your oil if you're not doing an oil analysis? That's just my point. You're just assuming the oil is all used up, when it very well may not be.

DinoZ

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I, by no means, think my oil is used up... I think it is dirty!!! Even if it's not dirty, what am I hurting by changing it every 3K miles? I run 6qts of Mobil 1, and use a PF58. I change it every 3K, give or take a few miles... it gives me a piece of mind, for only $25! Not to mention, I don't have to spend another $35 to get analysis done, to see how the oil is doing!!!

mmiller

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I think Patman is an obsessive/compulsive "oil-o" nut, LOL. I have never seen anyone quite like you, Patman when it comes to oil. How did you become so freaked about oil? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Patman

I really don't know how it got started! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I used to be an obsessive changer though, when I bought my first brand new car I changed the oil every 2k, and with the mileage I did, that was every 3 weeks! I wish I knew then what I know now! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Blue Fire

it just make's him hornyyyyyyyyy heheh J/K im that way to man when it's open to the people i want to make sure im putting in a good Oil. when you can get the bang for the buck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Firebird]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" />

MelloYellow

The only thing I've taken from this thread is that noone has said anything bad about RedLine yet. Other than the cost.. LOL.

I run RedLine, but it didn't help when my pump failed and I spun a bearing about 1/4 mile later. My bad, shoulda parked the car in the middle of the road. Was the 1st time I experienced that, anyhow got a new engine.

LS1PWR02SS

HEY TO ALL YOU HOUSTON GUYS RUNNING ROYAL PURPLE .ROYAL PURPLE IS MADE RITE THERE IN PORTTER TEXAS RITE OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON. YOU CAN ALSO GET THE STUFF AT NAPA

LS1PWR02SS

BY THE WAY TO BLUE FIRE THIS IS NICK <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> THIS ICON NEEDS TO BE A BLUE CAMARO