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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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I have been known to put in 87 and 89, but gravitate towards 91 as the norm.

(disclaimer) Don't take anything I'm about to say personally, any of you.

But I don't feel any great need to explain my actions to anyone here or to anyone else anywhere else. I'm a grown man and don't answer to anyone (except The Man, and The Mrs.) As with explaining the Conservative point of view to a Liberal, you just can't make some people see your point(s). But, in this instance I will explain some of the reasons I do this thing.

I am no longer 25 years old. I don't have to prove my manliness to everybody that pulls up next to me by either how fast I can squeal away from them or how loud or what kind of music I have. I don't NEED to have constant best performance. I'm confident in my manliness without using 91 or better AT ALL TIMES.

Sometimes I'm short of cash and it isn't quite payday. Having a mortgage, family, four cars, payments, retirement, beer, home repairs, cable bills, cell phone bills, food, clothing, beer, pizzas, and toys/tools/beer, etc. sometimes does that. If I can save lunch money, I eat lunch.

I've had my share of tickets and don't feel a need to get any more. Sure, I enjoy power and performance, but (referring to prior idea #1) I don't have to have to have it 24/7/365.

I don't bug anybody about having to have the bestest looking chick or no chick at all...nor the most expensive beer or no beer at all...nor the finest handgun there is or no handgun at all...So why do people get themselves all bent outta shape about what kind of stinkin' gas I use?

Sheesh. Take a break. Have a beer... And if you still can't get over it, BooFrickin'Hoo.


Personally, none of this gets me bent out of shape.

I can understand all of your points, but just remeber that not all of us that buy 93 with every fill up are doing so to prove our "manliness". I've been married for nearly a decade now and have responsibilities much like yours. I also enjoy my very low insurance rates and don't feel the need to pick up any more tickets (last one was 9 years ago, knocking on wood ). Therefore racing off every other stoplight was something that ended for me years ago.

But having said that, a tank of 93 costs me $3 more than a tank of 87. In my world, $3 per tank is an insignificant amount, and money well spent to know that I'm getting the best performance possibile out of my stock motor, for those times that I do feel like having a little fun with the throttle.

But, as always, to each his own.

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Personally, none of this gets me bent out of shape.
Thank you. You are a scholar and a gentleman.



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In my world, $3 per tank is an insignificant amount...But, as always, to each his own.
Exactly! $3 vs the small amount of performance lost. Insignificant. I simply choose the other side of the equation some times. It just isn't that big of a deal to me.


But there are those people who have a constant hard-on to use their gas pedal. I used to be one of them, so I understand. I'm not one of them any more, though I know where the gas pedal is and you can be sure there are no cobwebs underneath it.
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Thank you. You are a scholar and a gentleman.
Right back at ya!

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But there are those people who have a constant hard-on to use their gas pedal. I used to be one of them, so I understand. I'm not one of them any more, though I know where the gas pedal is and you can be sure there are no cobwebs underneath it.
I used to be extremely aggressive with the throttle as well. It resulted in some tickets, and one very lucky encounter with a cop that "overlooked" a street racing offence he could have easily charged me with, but instead gave me a ticket for "squealing tires at a red light". Got real lucky that night. That was in 1998, the last time I had a ticket.

These days I'm more like you, I have fun when the times are right, but the majority of my time behind the wheel of my Camaro is spent just cruising. Rest assured though, given the right place and the right time, I'm not afraid of a little WOT action.
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Thanks for the lecture, i feel moved and maybe, just maybe the next time a wrx pulls up next to me at a light i won't race him and not floor it like the typical muscle car owner i am and put him and his sideways hat wearing *** where he belongs and just maybe i will post a story up of this and sound like all of you guys.

and for the octane question, just fill up with what the factory recommends. unless you go cheap with the brand of oil you use and tires, brakes, etc...
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Thanks for the lecture, i feel moved and maybe, just maybe the next time a wrx pulls up next to me at a light i won't race him and not floor it like the typical muscle car owner i am and put him and his sideways hat wearing *** where he belongs and just maybe i will post a story up of this and sound like all of you guys.
I still mess around on the street from time to time. But you have to be smart about when and where you do it. Some people are not. Those are the guys that get constant tickets, high insurance, revoked licences, impounded cars, etc.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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I know, i'm just breaking *****, but i actually still drive pretty agressively and gots a clean record, should quit while ahead.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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premium is usually 10-22 cents more/gallon so in 1000 miles of city driving you might save at most $10-12 on gas, possible engine knock is not worth it for me.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Stick with premuim. $3-5 bucks extra means you eat 2 less slices of piazza each fill up, bigga deal.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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premium is 10 cents more than mid-grade, and you save little to no money in the long run due to decreased gas mileage on mid-grade. you may even lose money. there is no point to running it as you save, in reality, next to no money and all it does is cripple your engine and put it at risk for damage. it's a stupid move. the only reason why it should ever be purchased is if NO PREMIUM is available.

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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your manual calls for 91 octane. why would you run anything less? when you run less, your car pulls timing in order to combat detonation. this means that 89 octane gives you less power and less gas mileage. i absolutely hate discussions when people are too cheap to put the proper gas in your car. they don't realize that they're paying for it anyway by using the shitty gas. if you didn't want to use premium, WHY DID YOU BUY THE CAR? i'm sorry, but these topics really **** me off. you knew when you bought it the car requires premium. pay the extra 10 cents a gallon. you'll be paying that extra 10 cents by running 89 octane due to lost fuel economy. DO WHAT THE MANUAL TELLS YOU IN THIS CASE. please. do it for your car.
Like the man says (points up), if you don't want to put premium in it, sell the thing.

These cars take premium, you're not doing yourself any good by running regular or mid-grade.

And I rarely go WOT with my car. I just wouldn't want to risk something screwing up by downgrading my octane. Maybe I'm too much of a rule follower but I don't care. An extra $0.10-.20 per gallon is worth it if its good for the car.

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
premium is 10 cents more than mid-grade, and you save little to no money in the long run due to decreased gas mileage on mid-grade. you may even lose money. there is no point to running it as you save, in reality, next to no money and all it does is cripple your engine and put it at risk for damage. it's a stupid move. the only reason why it should ever be purchased is if NO PREMIUM is available.

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I love the way you start calling people stupid because they don't agree with you.
As for "needing" premium, that's obviously not true. Have you ever looked at the specs on an iron head LT1 like in the 94-96 Impala SS? The compression ratio was over 10:1 and it suggested you use regular gas, and that's with Iron heads! Now Taco boy, could you tell me why Iron heads are harder on octane than aluminum?

Around here regular (87) is 227ish, while premium (93) is 270ish. I fill up twice a week, so on average I save 10 dollars plus a week if I use regular, which is $40.00 a month, which is at very least an extra decent dinner with the girl.

This thread is almost as good as the "You're a stupid idiot unless you use sythetic oil in your LS1 thread...or you're a retard unless you use GC"...
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironxcross
Like the man says (points up), if you don't want to put premium in it, sell the thing.
Ok, I don't like the way you do your car. The color sucks. I think you should sell it.

And I don't like the way Choco treats his car. I think he should sell his.

In fact, you shouldn't be allowed to own a powerful car since you obviously don't know what you're talking about and can't possibly know how to take care of it. You're most definitely a Yugo or Festiva kind of guy...

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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People, chill. Premium is better but it's not life or death. Can everyone go with that?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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dont run that ever
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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I love the way you start calling people stupid because they don't agree with you.
that's because, in this case, it's true. if you don't agree that premium is better for your car, you are stupid. if you don't agree that premium is the proper fuel for these cars, you are stupid. if you don't agree that you run a risk of damaging something by not running premium, you are stupid. and if you're willing to buy an LS1 - a performance V8 - but aren't willing to pay $0.10 more a gallon for the fuel - well, again, you're lacking in the brain since you will LOSE FUEL ECONOMY, PERFORMANCE AND POSSIBLY DAMAGE SOMETHING. you don't save any money using mid-grade gasoline. you lose it all in lost fuel economy.

Originally Posted by Philhawk02
As for "needing" premium, that's obviously not true. Have you ever looked at the specs on an iron head LT1 like in the 94-96 Impala SS? The compression ratio was over 10:1 and it suggested you use regular gas, and that's with Iron heads! Now Taco boy, could you tell me why Iron heads are harder on octane than aluminum?

Around here regular (87) is 227ish, while premium (93) is 270ish. I fill up twice a week, so on average I save 10 dollars plus a week if I use regular, which is $40.00 a month, which is at very least an extra decent dinner with the girl.

This thread is almost as good as the "You're a stupid idiot unless you use sythetic oil in your LS1 thread...or you're a retard unless you use GC"...
the only thing stupid here is the assumptions you're making about me ever calling someone stupid for not using synthetic oil in an LS1. please, find me a thread where i said that. i guarantee you'll never find it because i never said it. way to lie to try and back up your bullshit point, dexter.

these cars are supposed to take premium. why do you think GM programmed into the CPU to retard timing when lower octane fuels are used? they had to do it as a SAFETY PRECAUTION because using these low-octane fuels will cause detonation and potentially damage your engine. GM included these features in the case that you're stuck somewhere that doesn't offer premium gas. GM didn't do this so you can run your engine forever on poor quality gasoline not suited for the engine. again, anyone that buys an LS1 f-body but won't pay for premium has serious issues. they made a V6 model specifically for you people. if you want to penny-pinch, you can buy one of those. i'm in college, have no money and i still can afford the $0.10/gallon. 0% of your argument is any good.

i suggest you sell your car. obviously, a car made to run on premium isn't for you. again, they made a V6 model for those that don't want to run premium.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Somebody ought to start the "Premium Fuel Only Society."

They could model it after this organisation:

"The Flat Earth Society"

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Anyone else run diesel in their ls1?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Anyone else run diesel in their ls1?
I drive over to O'Hare airport once a week to fill up my stock LS1 with AV gas. Works great.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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ya know, im not gonna start flammin on anybody here cause i hate these kind of pissing matches but for all ur vast knowledge, and im not trying to be sarcastic as it seems u know more than me on these cars, chaco, u seem to really lay into people when they ask a simple question. i do understand ur point completely about the gas thing but i dont feel i am STUPID because i run midgrade from time to time, i have red the manual and it only says premium is recomended but other grades can be used. All in all u can run whatever u want but as the manual states for best results premium is the best choice.
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