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Old May 4, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Pull the valve cover off. Look for possible broken valve spring or bent pushrods.
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Old May 5, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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Yeah...pull the valve cover. Check for a broken spring.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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could it possibly be electrical? because it's ultra crammed under there. i don't really wanna have to do that. is there anything i should check first?
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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It is not as bad as it looks...it only takes a half hour to get both valvecovers off. Trust me it's easier to check that first than to go hunting for an electrical problem in 10 miles of wire that comprises the f-body electrical system
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Old May 9, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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not tryin to hijack but dont even remind me about the wiring in this car... mine wont start and theres a short somewhere in the starter wiring....
pull the covers and hope youre lucky enough you find the problem in a little spring lmao...
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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what's the trick to gettin the fuel line off the rail? i bought the tool (scissor-type) and haven't had any luck.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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what's the trick to gettin the fuel line off the rail? i bought the tool (scissor-type) and haven't had any luck.
Don't bother with the fuel line, just work around it. there is plenty of room to remove the coil bracket & valve cover without undoing the line. It's too much of a pain IMO and I have the right tool for it!
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Old May 10, 2007 | 02:49 AM
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i like the way you think! lol. i have a bad feeling it's not gonna be a spring. i've had a lifter ticking since i bought the car...pretty sure it's gonna end up being that. how big a job is that? i'm not afraid to tear into it, just curious. thanks again for all the help guys.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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i like the way you think! lol. i have a bad feeling it's not gonna be a spring. i've had a lifter ticking since i bought the car...pretty sure it's gonna end up being that. how big a job is that? i'm not afraid to tear into it, just curious. thanks again for all the help guys.
It's not too bad...if you already had the valvecover off you'd have a good head start on the lifter. Remove the rockers/pushrods, unbolt the head, and the lifters sit in little trays in the block under the cylinder head. Hopefully it's on the drivers side, you have a little more room there.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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well, it wasn't a spring, so i guess the head comes off tomorrow. how can you tell if a lifter is bad by looking at it? also, what would you all recommend changing while i have it apart?

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Old May 10, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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could a lifter even cause the misfire? what are some possible electrical causes for this?
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Old May 10, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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WELL, CAMMED AND HAVING MISFIRE ISSUE VERY VERY SIMILAR, Problem is, i pulled my valv vocers about four weeks ago, inspected my springs, seats, retainers, lockes, rockers, adn found nothing, put the car back together, and she ran beautiful. WEll, got home today, pulled cover off, and she runs like pure crap again. Only thing i haven't tried is checking for possible bent valve. sinc epulling the heads anyway, ppped them out, and check for trueness.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by squall01
i was talking to some friends today...could a fuel injector be the problem?
thats a good point to start at.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by blownta00
thats a good point to start at.
already checked those. that's why i'm down to the lifters. just wondering if they can really cause the misfire issue i'm having. seems to me, a collapsed lifter would only cause the valve to not open completely. not sure if that could cause a misfire or not.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Have you inspected the coil pack harness, My buddys car was doing something similar to this and we found it had a chaffed wire on the pass side coil pack. I would Pull the coil pack remove the harness and inspect it closely, unplug all of the coils on that side and put a little dielectric grease on all the electrical plugs including the main harness plug. With the coil pack off remove the valve cover and have a look, maybe you have a bent push or some thing else going on in there, It would be worth a look. Good luck -Dave
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Old May 11, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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i have inspected everything. haven't been able to find any visible problems. the intake is off and the head is the next, as soon as my buddy stops bleeding. hopefully after all this bloodshed, something gets fixed.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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well, i have the lifters out, gonna start puttin everything back together tomorrow. What is the best way to get all the old gasket off the head? also, are there any tips you guys can offer on puttin this thing back together?
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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What was the verdict on the lifters? Any pooped or are you just replacing them?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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i couldn't tell anything from just looking at the lifters, so i just changed all 8 on that side. this has been the job from hell. right now i'm working on getting a valve cover bolt out of the head. it broke off at about 3am last night. i'm about to give up and have it flatbedded to a shop somewhere.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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well, just in case anyone is monitoring this thread, I got the bolt out. waiting on the new valve cover bolts to show up tomorrow. gonna add some coolant, change the oil, bolt the rest of the crap on, hook up the plugs, and hope the problem is fixed. I'll post the results tomorrow....hopefully.
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