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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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How many miles are on it?
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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My feelings, w/ a posi type unit evey 15k to 25k miles depending on use.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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How many miles are on it?
93,000+ miles. Never been changed. Runs perfect, is 100% silent. I was just curious, it just crossed my mind

Jeezuz christ.....I better get it changed tomorrow.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Greggy
My feelings, w/ a posi type unit evey 15k to 25k miles depending on use.
Is it just a fluid drain and refill, or is there a filter in there anywhere


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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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I bet the fluid looks like metal soup.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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I bet the fluid looks like metal soup.
Changed it today. It was dark, but there wasn't one spec of metal anywhere. The only thing we saw, which Strange told me I should see was powderized metal looking specs on the magnet. There was a tiny bit on it.

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change about every 15k-20k.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Flawless02SS
change about every 15k-20k.
Yeah, I just didn't know that was the recommended interval. But after seeing very clean fluid after 94,000 miles and saw zero metal shavings its probably overkill for a street car. I'll do it every 50,000 or so.


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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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I have a Stock 97 Firebird V6. It was my brothers and he ran the **** out of it, doing burns out and donuts like an idiot thinking hes badass even though its a 6 banger. He fianlly got a new car and gave it to me. I Changed the rear end fluid at 143,000 miles. The oil was Cold and it was as thin as water and black as night. But to my suprise the ring and pinion were in great condition.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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It depends on the differential type too. If it has a clutch type posi like an Eaton the fluid will tend to be darker, if it has an Auburn cone type you will see more stuff on the magnet, if it's a torque biasing type like a Detroit TruTrac or Torsen the fluid usually comes out clean because theres nothing but gears, no clutches.
I change it more often with an auburn, less with an eaton, and go even longer with a torsen.
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Man, doesnt that fluid smell like crap. My garage still smells like it a week after I had to rebuild my rear. I heard there is fish oil in it?? Hmmmm.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 03:33 AM
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Man, doesnt that fluid smell like crap.
amen to that
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I just do mine every season as a matter of basic matience and the fact ill be board in March.
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I replace the oil everytime that I break the rear end.
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I replace the oil everytime that I break the rear end.
LOL, yup same boat here. I just dont want to spend the money yet on a 9" so I just keep on slapping parts on her.

Hey were you on 79 yesterday by Nevil Island around 3pm? Sorry to OP.
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Originally Posted by ReDevilRXP
I have a Stock 97 Firebird V6. It was my brothers and he ran the **** out of it, doing burns out and donuts like an idiot thinking hes badass even though its a 6 banger. He fianlly got a new car and gave it to me. I Changed the rear end fluid at 143,000 miles. The oil was Cold and it was as thin as water and black as night. But to my suprise the ring and pinion were in great condition.
Most people I spoke with said if your rear-end is sealed well and doesn't leak, 100,000 miles between changes is just fine. I made it to 94,000 and mine was perfect so they are correct. But it took me and my friend 20 minutes so every 50,000 sounds better.


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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin00WS6
LOL, yup same boat here. I just dont want to spend the money yet on a 9" so I just keep on slapping parts on her.

Hey were you on 79 yesterday by Nevil Island around 3pm? Sorry to OP.
Nope - wasn't me. My car is so fast that you can't even see it on the road.
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rear end gear oil change interval really does depend on use and carrier/differential type. At 50k on a 3rd gen austrialian 9-bolt, which is stronger than the 10-bolt and a clutch type carrier, the fluid was toast at 50k. In fact, the differential clutchs were 'popping' the axles badly on a slow turn. After replacing the clutch dust contaminated fluid the differential was smooth, but I lost all posi-action at around 80k, and the axle bearings roared like a jet plane at 100k even with regular service oftenafter the late 50k service. This axle should have had service much earlier..say 20-25k.

I have done service on my ls1 torsen since new at 15-20k intervals. Probably can easily double it on this type of posi, but I wanted to keep things going strong for 100+k. Torsens work perfectly untill they break. At 95k I still have great posi-action, but now may be getting some bearing scraping/clicking noises.

So overkill 15k changes still won't make thing last forever, but on some types of differentials 50k is too long to go.

My recomendations for a hard driven street car:

auburn/eaton clutch cone type: Dino GL5 fluid w/ LSD additive at 15-25k miles

zexel torsen/detroit true-trac helical gear type: Synthetic GL5 no LSD additive 25-50k miles.

For me I would use the lower of the two intervals because it is easy and I can keep an eye on things like low levels, wear, inspection of parts.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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QUESTION ~
WHich type of posi-unit does my 2002 Z/28 have? And which is the better of the two & why ?
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