Stumped Guys!!!!!! Need Your Thoughts!!!!!
Stumped Guys!!!!!! Need Your Thoughts!!!!! This is my first f-body and really dont know to much about them just yet.
I have a 1997 firebird formula:
I have had the car for going on two months now and have not had any problems with it. Ok i started it up today and it started great like it always has. I let it idle for awhile while i removed the ttops (Almost 60 outside!!!) Got in and drove it maybe 2 miles to my work, shut it off, and maybe 5 minutes later came back out and tryed to turn it over. Nothing... When i turn the ignition switch on none of the lights in the gauge cluster come on. The oil pressure gauge doesnt zero out and the volt gauge doesnt register. Also i dont hear my fuel pump running. But if i have the ignition switch on the run position my radio works, and my turn signals will work.
What i have tried:
I have tried jumping, cleaning battery cables, checked all my fuses (interior and engine bay) with a test light.
I also have ruled out that my starter is fine (Screwdriver). I also tried leaving the ignition in the run position and cranking over the engine with the screwdriver. It will crank but there is no fire. I know now that i have an electrical probem and not a mechanical one.
Where would you guys recommend me looking? My first insticnt i had was an ignition switch. Would a bad ignition switch be the cluprit?
Could the pass II system on the car be acting up?
I have a feeling that this is going to be something that is really simple. I just cannot for the life of me figure out what is giving me fits. Any help you guys can offer me would be very helpful.
I have a 1997 firebird formula:
I have had the car for going on two months now and have not had any problems with it. Ok i started it up today and it started great like it always has. I let it idle for awhile while i removed the ttops (Almost 60 outside!!!) Got in and drove it maybe 2 miles to my work, shut it off, and maybe 5 minutes later came back out and tryed to turn it over. Nothing... When i turn the ignition switch on none of the lights in the gauge cluster come on. The oil pressure gauge doesnt zero out and the volt gauge doesnt register. Also i dont hear my fuel pump running. But if i have the ignition switch on the run position my radio works, and my turn signals will work.
What i have tried:
I have tried jumping, cleaning battery cables, checked all my fuses (interior and engine bay) with a test light.
I also have ruled out that my starter is fine (Screwdriver). I also tried leaving the ignition in the run position and cranking over the engine with the screwdriver. It will crank but there is no fire. I know now that i have an electrical probem and not a mechanical one.
Where would you guys recommend me looking? My first insticnt i had was an ignition switch. Would a bad ignition switch be the cluprit?
Could the pass II system on the car be acting up?
I have a feeling that this is going to be something that is really simple. I just cannot for the life of me figure out what is giving me fits. Any help you guys can offer me would be very helpful.
2 thing to do first
Just clean the key and switch first (al lil alcohol)
then Door Key in Driver door and unlock too
Sounds Like Vats .. I think it started in late 1997
Just clean the key and switch first (al lil alcohol)
then Door Key in Driver door and unlock too
Sounds Like Vats .. I think it started in late 1997
Last edited by I-10 b4c runner; Jan 31, 2008 at 02:09 AM.
I actually took my key to the gm dealer and had it tested. They said it looked great. Had plenty of resistance. And i have read that if it is your vats system going bad, the security light in your dash will stay on constantly (my cluster is dead) there is nothing going on.
Wouldnt the only thing that would cause the pcm and the gauges not to get "juice" be something to do with the ignition locking cylinder?
Thank you guys for your input im going to go and try it once again...
Any more suggestions?
Wouldnt the only thing that would cause the pcm and the gauges not to get "juice" be something to do with the ignition locking cylinder?
Thank you guys for your input im going to go and try it once again...
Any more suggestions?
OK go under the dash It sounds like I would first test the igntion harness wires to see if they get 12v at switched look for any spliced or but connected wires ... there may have been a remote start or something there b4 you ... if you have no power on the ign 1 and 2 then you need to trace those backwards
Figured it out guys!!! It was the ignition switch in the column... Didnt think those went bad all that often. But that was definatly the problem. What would cause the ignition switch to fry? (by the way it had a little bit of oil on it) Dont know how??? What do you guys think?
