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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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ok so as of now i've thought that you're supposed to only have 5 qts of oil in a ls1...is that true or false?
i saw a couple of other threads and people were saying 5.5-6qts? is that with the factory oil pan?
by the way im using castrol synthatic 5-30 with a wix filter; just wanted to know what your thoughts were on that as well. thanks again guys!
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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I put in 6 in mine. I think it is 5.5 can't recall. I burn oil so the little extra helps.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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If you don't change the filter, it might only take 5 quarts (but who would to that?)

If you're using the standard "short" filter, then that will account for the other 1/2 quart, so 5 1/2. If the "tall" filter is used, you'll need 6.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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"short"? "tall" filter? i thought they're all the same size for the stock oil pan...is there an advantage to running a larger oil filter?
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by armintheman
"short"? "tall" filter? i thought they're all the same size for the stock oil pan...is there an advantage to running a larger oil filter?
Taller filter means more filtration (more/better filtered oil).I use the K&N 2600 and have had no problems.Have to fill case w/six quarts of oil tho. $.02
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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My friends just goes with the standard 6. Like he said a little extra isn't going to hurt ya.
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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ok sweet. so 6 qts with a taller filter perferably. one last thing do those breather caps help any? or only on sc and turbo cars....
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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ok sweet. so 6 qts with a taller filter perferably. one last thing do those breather caps help any? or only on sc and turbo cars....
If you are not having problems with PCV system or other blowby problems, don't bother with the breather cap.
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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ok honestly i dont even know if my car still has a pcv valve...all the emisions/smog have been taken off...where's the pcv valve located? if i don't have one would the cap help me any? reason why i ask is because im in a situation to were i either need to buy another factory cap or should i spend the extra money for the breather cap? (my cap is cracked)
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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bump. still needing help guys
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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LS1 have a tendency to run the pan dry when in high rpm for a period of time so i just put in about 6.5 and half in the filter and call it go to go thats just how i do it tho and works for me
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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It's 5.5 with filter change. Put the extra 1/2 qt into the lawn mower or something else. Don't save it and use it as the .5 in the next oil change.
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Don't save it and use it as the .5 in the next oil change.
Why not?
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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I always put 6qt in with the short filter.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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whats the part number for a short filter and a long filter? or what does the long filter come off of so i can have the autozone guy run a parts search. i always get the wix filter at orielys (i think they give me the short filter every time...) so 5.5-6 qts is safe. i put 5 qts last time with a new filter so i was pretty low on oil then
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Why not use the dip stick? That's what it's there for.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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lol i know i know. but it didnt seem to low i cheched it. i just figured i didnt put the dip stick back in all the way after the header install.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Book says 5.5. I put in 6 cuz my car eats oil between changes.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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consider this: what decides the full level in the oil pan? Or when you install the dipstick tube into the oil pan and make a dipstick out of a piece of flat steel so many inches long, how do you know where to put the full mark?
the answer is the full mark is as high as possible without having the crankshaft whip into oil sitting in the pan, otherwise it'll splash oil and cause aeration in the oil.
On most dipsticks on a v-8 you can go 1/4" to 1/2" over the full mark with no problems, especially if it's a measurement when the engine's cold and all the oil is in the pan.

i also happened to overfill mine last oil change because i was pouring from 5qt jugs and the following morning when I checked I was about 1.5" over the full mark. And it had felt like the engine was a little sluggish the previous day, so I just drained a little and was all good. I use a PF61 filter, the long one, and I always use at least 6 qts when refilling if I'm pouring from quart bottles.
The oil pan on the ls1 is reported to not be the greatest in high G turns and the oil can go to one side and expose the oil pump pickup, which is why roadcourse guys always add 1 extra quart. I just saw an add in gm hitech mag about a new baffle for the ls1 oil pan too.

so if you buy quart bottles, buy at least 6 and if you let the oil drain out of the pan until it stops draining then just add 6 quarts.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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i run castrol syntec 5w-40 with the ac delco pf 46 short filter. and i use 5.5 quarts in mine. sometimes i just wanna put 6 quarts and call it a day.
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