People talk about H/C like it's 100% safe. In my opinion if somebody has the money to do heads, cam, and n2o..go for it. i am all for heads and cam. It's a great way to get power. Hell even just cam plus supporting mods is a bad *** bang for the buck at around 1200 for the best parts too. If you can do it yourself.

I think n20 is a good idea because you get to decide when and where you put wear on your motor...If your racing someone you know will beat you then spray..if your racing a mustang...no spray, lol. If your heads and cam your putting wear on the motor/rear end at all times.

With n2o you can lock out first gear and delay 2nd gear and save your rear end/have a nasty street car that gets 20mpg+ on the highway. With no additional wear on motor when your not racing for money, no 6500+ shifts to the rear.

Obviously if you got money pourin out your *** then do h/c/n2o, and rear end. I think for someone who has about 1000 to spend on power and tune then n2o is the way to go. At least get you by while your saving up for the stroked out 454...OH **** 454+nasty h/c/coated pistons+300shot=getting kicked off the track for not having full roll cage plus 10 other infractions!!!

 

I disagree. Just because you have the power on tap doesn't mean it's adding more wear. If you have a heads/cam setup and drive it normal, easy, whatever, your not necessarily wearing it out faster. Cruising at 2k is cruising at 2k. Unless of course your heads/cam setup incorporates a 13.5-1 CR which would significantly raise cylinder pressure. But I don't believe that's your typical daily driven setup.

I have had two diff cars and went at things a few diff ways. From my experience, I would prefer adding some more power on motor first, then add the N20 later.

 

^^^i agree with this guy. H/C doesn't mean more wear, your right foot does.

 

I see your point and I agree.

The point I was trying to make is that with a stock rear. n2o power puts less wear on the rear. By locking out first and delaying second. With a all power all the time car your gonna snap the rear. With n2o you can have 500hp and only put 350hp wear on the rear end right out the hole and hitting second..agree or no? Which is why I said if you have the money for new rear and h/c then obviously yes, that's the way to go. On a budget, n2o first, then h/c while your saving up for 402.

With a cam/head car your gonna wanna wrap it out to 6500-7000. With stock bottom end this isn't the best idea. Although I'm sure many will say stock rod bolts n such are good till 7000 it's not really a good idea not to change them. So of coarse your gonna change the rod bolts but what about the rods and pistons...are they bullet proof?

The key to run both of these setups safe is the tune and supporting mods. You can kill a new build in one pass on a shitty tune, either side of the fence. So again it comes down to money. n2o with good tune for 1000 or h/c and good tune for 4000(no pistons, rods, no new rings, no new bearings.)

We all know we are gonna get on it alot. If your 100% hp 24/7 then your wearing out those parts. If your n2o your not gonna be spraying ALL the time unless there's a car to race.

A 500 hp h/c car is just as much on barrow time as a 350+150 shot car. If you do a shotty job and try to cut corners by not building the bottom end you can blow that sucker. If you build the n2o setup right it can be PRETTY safe.

So the main point would be n2o done right can be a cheap way do make reasonably safe power.

When I'm talking about wear I'm talking about WOT wear. With that being said, when racing a car you know you could beat with 150hp less you can't turn the H/C off. Are you saying that the 500hp h/c car doesn't put more wear at WOT then the 350hp car?

I had a long shpeal written out and the computer messed up so I know I forgot some stuff I wanted to say.

 

cam doesnt add more wear?


650 lift?



regardless, i say H/C then spray..

 

I thought he was asking about heads or nitrous? Now people are talking H/C setups vs. nitrous.

I personally would say go for heads over nitrous if those are your only 2 options. The heads will always be there, and make a good foundation for any other future mods you're wanting to do for gains that you will see and feel all the time.

 

jjuuiicceeeeeee

 

byast i may be, but thier is something to be said for a decent heads and cam for the seat of the pants feeling... but heads cam and n20 my n20 is comin already!

 

If I could do it again I would go H/C.

 

Nitrous if you're on a budget.

 

Nitrous for sure. It's at least half as cheap as some good heads and will net you more power. Slap on a nice 100-150 shot and you'll be glad you didn't spend twice the amount of money for 70-120 less whp. You don't need power on tap all the time, that's just for you guys running around street ricing revving at every truck/car you see.

 

Oh give me a break man! through a yank 3600??!! I know you arent complaining... you ought to know that dyno's are just numbers! My bro only pulled 425 with stock converter and your bitching about 417 through a YANK3600!!?? I believe I have made my point.

 

good heads.