fra and ftra
Proof. Show it and I'll believe you.
I've seen more variation than .1 just by running at the track two days in a row, same 60' and everything.
there are past threads to confirm results.
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From: St. Clair Shores Mi.
Ok gys the FRA mod was around long before this site back in the grass roots days of the LS1. We didn't have any aftermarket parts back then so we did what we could. Obviously opinions vary on whether it works or not but like I said in my previuos post, it brings in cold air at speed. The ducted kits may add a pressureizing affect but lets be honest it's not like adding boost or anything. Lets just say it adds power potential for no cash outlay so why would you not do it.
Ok gys the FRA mod was around long before this site back in the grass roots days of the LS1. We didn't have any aftermarket parts back then so we did what we could. Obviously opinions vary on whether it works or not but like I said in my previuos post, it brings in cold air at speed. The ducted kits may add a pressureizing affect but lets be honest it's not like adding boost or anything. Lets just say it adds power potential for no cash outlay so why would you not do it.
as for the pressurization of the ftra, i've seen 0.5 - 0.7 positive intake pressure with my FRA with a vacuum gauge. But I don't think I'm calling that boost.
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^^^^
I agree
.5 -.7 + is still better then nothing though and thats cooler air aswell.
To tell you the truth at first I couldn't remember when I did this mod whether it was late `98 or early `99
But I recall installing my debaffled Ram Air Hood (spring `99) and being disappointed in the results (save for the looks). Then we did the FRA and EGR mods together and we noticed a performance increase. Of coarse the only way to gage this was running other cars that had no changes and seeing if we pulled harder on them. So my buddies `96 SS M6 was the pigeon.
This was all happening about the same time that the first Air Lids were coming out and I wasn't going to spend the $250 bones for one at that time considering I was getting married and bought a house.
I agree
.5 -.7 + is still better then nothing though and thats cooler air aswell.
To tell you the truth at first I couldn't remember when I did this mod whether it was late `98 or early `99
But I recall installing my debaffled Ram Air Hood (spring `99) and being disappointed in the results (save for the looks). Then we did the FRA and EGR mods together and we noticed a performance increase. Of coarse the only way to gage this was running other cars that had no changes and seeing if we pulled harder on them. So my buddies `96 SS M6 was the pigeon.
This was all happening about the same time that the first Air Lids were coming out and I wasn't going to spend the $250 bones for one at that time considering I was getting married and bought a house.
^^^^
I agree
.5 -.7 + is still better then nothing though and thats cooler air aswell.
To tell you the truth at first I couldn't remember when I did this mod whether it was late `98 or early `99
But I recall installing my debaffled Ram Air Hood (spring `99) and being disappointed in the results (save for the looks). Then we did the FRA and EGR mods together and we noticed a performance increase. Of coarse the only way to gage this was running other cars that had no changes and seeing if we pulled harder on them. So my buddies `96 SS M6 was the pigeon.
This was all happening about the same time that the first Air Lids were coming out and I wasn't going to spend the $250 bones for one at that time considering I was getting married and bought a house.
I agree
.5 -.7 + is still better then nothing though and thats cooler air aswell.
To tell you the truth at first I couldn't remember when I did this mod whether it was late `98 or early `99
But I recall installing my debaffled Ram Air Hood (spring `99) and being disappointed in the results (save for the looks). Then we did the FRA and EGR mods together and we noticed a performance increase. Of coarse the only way to gage this was running other cars that had no changes and seeing if we pulled harder on them. So my buddies `96 SS M6 was the pigeon.
This was all happening about the same time that the first Air Lids were coming out and I wasn't going to spend the $250 bones for one at that time considering I was getting married and bought a house.
I just did this a few weeks ago. I'll go to the track this Friday if weather permits and see if it did anything beneficial.
In my search for the FTRA mod, I found that people were only getting 0.3s.
Who knows. Most of this car stuff is marketing anyway.
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I've been around these car long enough to see all Hype about certain things and the BS about others. Your numbers just verified to me what I always new was the truth and I thank you for that.
Alot of these new guys get suckered in by the hype of big numbers for certain products. And then listen to the BS claims about how certain things hurt performance. When in reality it's about getting Air in and out of your engine. Do it efficiently on both sides and you can't help but gain performance.
Thanks again
Alot of these new guys get suckered in by the hype of big numbers for certain products. And then listen to the BS claims about how certain things hurt performance. When in reality it's about getting Air in and out of your engine. Do it efficiently on both sides and you can't help but gain performance.
Thanks again
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Verdad Gallardo I've been around these car long enough to see all Hype about certain things and the BS about others. Your numbers just verified to me what I always new was the truth and I thank you for that.
Alot of these new guys get suckered in by the hype of big numbers for certain products. And then listen to the BS claims about how certain things hurt performance. When in reality it's about getting Air in and out of your engine. Do it efficiently on both sides and you can't help but gain performance.
Thanks again
Alot of these new guys get suckered in by the hype of big numbers for certain products. And then listen to the BS claims about how certain things hurt performance. When in reality it's about getting Air in and out of your engine. Do it efficiently on both sides and you can't help but gain performance.
Thanks again
Maybe since I know how the system works, I should get in the high performance business. I'll give you a sheet metal plate, two screws and wingnuts and directions. $29.95.
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Thats in response to ebay headers.
So, want to buy some fast toys ram air kits yet?
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3. Posting about availability, or soliciting Ebay headers.
4. Comparisons with LS1TECH sponsor sold headers.
Thats in response to ebay headers.
So, want to buy some fast toys ram air kits yet?
damn close to 30 if that.
i'll never buy one just due to the fact that i know this. plus i can get one made for 30