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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 12:36 AM
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Question Pacesetter Headers good or bad???

Hi all,
I have read alot of bad issues about Pacesetter Headers. What is the deal about them. So many fitment issues. I want to get a set for my 2002 Firehawk. Texas speed and performance has there special going on.
But, should I take the chance and get some (with the y-pipe) or not?
Or should I get Macs or ????

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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 01:41 AM
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get them...period
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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screw MAC's, those things suck. if u want to save money then get Pacesetters, if u want top quality stainless steel then get kooks. those are the only 2 u should think about.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 06:25 AM
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I would buy them again.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 06:47 AM
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i am putting on pacesetters right at this moment... headers look great. there is a fittament issue on the drivers side,but nothing that a grinder and 5 minutes cant take care of... now the pacesetter y pipe??? thats a different story...looks like i will have to do some modding to get it to fit right
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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I have installed 3 sets of these in the last 2 months and not one of them has taken more than 4 hrs. Only one has required any grinding on the block and that was the first set and looking back after doing the other 2 sets could have probably been installed without grinding. The y pipe was not that much of a problem either. The only problem was with the 2 SS's that had SLP SFC's, The Y had to be modified to clear on the driver side. Performance has been right on par with all other headers as far as I have seen. The one car that has been dynoed picked up 23 rwhp with out tuning
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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that is most excellent power for price. The Y does suck in the collector weld, but BRAND H gives you 25whp and pacesetter gives you 23rwhp then its likely there a knock off lol. 2whp is enough that tire pressure or heatsoak could account for i bet.

I bought them on the price alone. The rest of the money went to other go-fast goodies.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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I have always heard good things about Pasecetters except the collector on the Y is just two pipes welded together. I have heard that they make great power and also fit pretty good. I dont think you could go wrong with LT's for under 400 bucks.

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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Thanks guys. That helped alot.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Always wondered, when people say ~25 hp gains are they talking pacesetters with ory versus other brand and their ory or just the headers in general regardless of y-pipe used? If it's only a 2 hp difference or so, I might just go with the pacesetter y when I decide to put these on because it's kind of a pain to find a shop that will fab up a y-pipe without cats!
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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love mine I got them coated,sims,o/r y for less than 500 and would buy again! Do change the plugs while your manifolds are off. you will never get to the first 3 on the pass, side with them on!
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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We're running the Pacesetter longtubes on our project car that went 10s heads/cam while winning the quick stock class
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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I already ordered my set last week in the special with
TSP...And now i'm more the happy for take that desition.Thanks Brian from TSP excellent customer service.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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I have a set of coated and they are very nice headers. Highly recommended.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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MAC's = garbage ... I had them on my car for almost a year and they produced almost 0 extra hp.... what a waste.

TSP has some good stuff, so I would assume nothing less of their headers. The bang for the buck is definately there, and I'm pretty sure the HUGE savings is well worth a couple minutes worth of custom fitting / grinding.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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Trevor sent you a PM eariler today.

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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I used to have Macs, had to sell them for bills, but I really did like them. I won't let anyone bad mouth them, they fit great, they gave me good power, I would do it again in the same situation. Although right now looks like Pace Setter wins.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
MAC's = garbage ... I had them on my car for almost a year and they produced almost 0 extra hp.... what a waste.
You install them backwards?
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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zero hp from macs huh, you must of forgot to take all the packing foam out of the collectors before you installed them

because i got 21 hp and 20 ftlbs outta my macs and their shitty ypipe with no tuning , which is at if not above what people are getting from pacesetters. and theve been on for 2 years in florida and have no rust on them at all.

i still havent seen enough proof to justify me getting lt's yet
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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I too have the Pacesetter LT's w/ ORY & custom tuning.
I had absolutely "0" problems with the install & they are holding up very well! My car is driven daily & there is barely any surface rust @ the bottom.
have had them on my car approx 6 months.
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