Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Lid vs FIPK

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-21-2009, 09:13 AM
  #1  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
phoenix1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 421
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Lid vs FIPK

Is there a hp difference between a lid and a K&N cold air for a 4th gen? What about engine temps?
Old 07-21-2009, 11:35 AM
  #2  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (25)
 
Hamrdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wichita Falls, Tx.
Posts: 486
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

A while back ago someone on here did a comparo of several different lids and an fipk. They did the test on a dyno with several high power fans to simulate a car at speed. The test were done with the hood open and with it closed. Open the fipk made the most hp but closed it was pretty much at the bottom of the list. Closed the fast toys 85mm lid did the best followed by a TSP lid(no longer made). Seriously though a lid and cutting out the bottom of the airbox is by far the best route as far as performance and bang for the buck. The fipk is way too expensive for what it does. Most people that list the gains are doing so on the dyno with the good open. But we drive with the hood closed. I hope this helps.
Old 07-21-2009, 12:40 PM
  #3  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Engine_HP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Middle East.
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

i digged hard for the Lid vs FIPK compartion and what this guy ^^^^^ is saying is correct
Old 07-21-2009, 12:47 PM
  #4  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (24)
 
chrs1313's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,697
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

get a lid so you can incorporate ram air like a FTRA, SSRA, SUX2Bu or custom...if you dont wanna run ram ait then both setups are about equal...but you will be leaving hp on the table
Old 07-21-2009, 02:24 PM
  #5  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
phoenix1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 421
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hamrdown
A while back ago someone on here did a comparo of several different lids and an fipk. They did the test on a dyno with several high power fans to simulate a car at speed. The test were done with the hood open and with it closed. Open the fipk made the most hp but closed it was pretty much at the bottom of the list. Closed the fast toys 85mm lid did the best followed by a TSP lid(no longer made). Seriously though a lid and cutting out the bottom of the airbox is by far the best route as far as performance and bang for the buck. The fipk is way too expensive for what it does. Most people that list the gains are doing so on the dyno with the good open. But we drive with the hood closed. I hope this helps.


Thanks for the input! My car has an ls1 motorsports lid. I was just wondering about the $300 k and n
Old 07-21-2009, 03:03 PM
  #6  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (25)
 
Hamrdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wichita Falls, Tx.
Posts: 486
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

I'd put the $300 or $395 on a sponsors site towards other mods like headers or catback exhaust. I ran the ls1 Motorsports lid for several years with no problems. It's a great lid.
Old 07-21-2009, 08:50 PM
  #7  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
phoenix1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 421
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What happened to ls1 motorsports? I have all the bolt ons too.
Old 07-21-2009, 09:27 PM
  #8  
On The Tree
 
00fastta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Is the slp lid comparable to the ftp or the tsp lid? I absolutely hate the look of the ftp lid.
Old 07-22-2009, 02:18 AM
  #9  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (25)
 
Hamrdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wichita Falls, Tx.
Posts: 486
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by phoenix1987
What happened to ls1 motorsports? I have all the bolt ons too.
Yeah they were real big back in the day and came up with a very nice turbo set up but unfortunately couldn't keep up with the demand and for some reason instead of expanding they closed down. It sucks too because I had stuff on back order when they shut down so they got to keep my money. But things happen and it wasn't too much money but their products were very good that I had. I did put thin weather stripping around the underside of the airlid for a airtight seal though.
Old 07-22-2009, 02:24 AM
  #10  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (25)
 
Hamrdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wichita Falls, Tx.
Posts: 486
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by 00fastta
Is the slp lid comparable to the ftp or the tsp lid? I absolutely hate the look of the ftp lid.
All lids are very comparable in power and fitment. Personally I love my new clear fast toys 100mm lid. Just get what's in your budget or what you think looks better. Because that is a loaded question. You can get two lids from the same company and one may fit like a glove and the other warped so bad that it won't fit under the locking tabs. If you do get one that doesn't fit right just send it back for a new one. No biggie.
Old 07-22-2009, 03:07 PM
  #11  
On The Tree
 
00fastta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Well I just don't like how the fast toys one looks, but it there is 100 mm lid...Look like I found a lid that will go in.
Old 07-22-2009, 03:47 PM
  #12  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Engine_HP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Middle East.
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

^^^ u mean the 104 lid ?
Old 07-22-2009, 04:50 PM
  #13  
On The Tree
 
00fastta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Well I looked on their site and they have a 98 mm clear and regular lid and they also have a 104mm for 20 bucks more.
Old 07-22-2009, 05:03 PM
  #14  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
Strahley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Manhattan, KS
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Get a lid and put the $200 elsewhere..like nitrous refills
Old 07-22-2009, 06:46 PM
  #15  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Engine_HP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Middle East.
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

^^^^ deff do that. but not nos ill go for headers or cam, if u like.
Old 07-22-2009, 06:55 PM
  #16  
On The Tree
 
00fastta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I don't think I'll never go nos...seems like cheating to me, but thats my .02
Old 07-22-2009, 07:15 PM
  #17  
On The Tree
 
Demon 383's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Folsom, CA
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 00fastta
I don't think I'll never go nos...seems like cheating to me, but thats my .02
Would you ever consider doing a supercharger or turbo build? If so that would be cheating too.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:41 AM.