LS6 vs. LS6 85TB vs. BBK85 vs. FAST92
11-06-2009, 04:34 PM
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But for the LS6/ported stock TB that was the tune Mike did for me I drove/raced on for last year, and this year till that night (basline). Then put the 85mm TB on, with the stock maff. (I never took the maff off the bellow/lid). And did 1-2 pulls quick, I have a 02 bung in my wideband and watched the AFR on a LM1. My old roomate Bpipe95 on here, and another friend helped me for the night, some others stoped by too. But it was fine, I forgot the numbers only maybe .2 difference. Just WOT only it was fine. But your should do a tune, for the larger TB moving more air at part throttle, or if you change maff for sure. Same for the BBK, with the 85mm TB, just put the stock bellow/maff and my lid on , and did the pulls. AFR was close. Mikthat tunes my car, wasn't right there on the dyno at the time (probably on the phone, and going Emails, it wasn't really late yet, lol.
I had alot of work to do changing all this stuff that night and getting my car off the dyno that night. There was a customer getting a tune in the AM and I had to work eaily also. I know all these things you'd like to do, but I basicly had a small window of time I could use a dyno. So now looking back I wish I did some other things. Like the BBK 85/85 would make more power with a descreend/ported stock maff, Or a 85 or larger maff. You can get a 85mm truck maff CHEAP! I got mine for like $30 shipped, so that would the way to go, USE the larger TB and intake. Thats cheap and might be another 3-5 whp witch is twice the gain over a LS6 intake on my car. If you have a LS1 intake that would be the way to go.
BBK used to but they don't anymore, It was a nice job too. You could always polish it yourself. Just just the top ribs, that would be really easy. And paint the rest some other guys I saw did that and it looked really nice.;l
11-06-2009, 08:45 PM
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Oh, not the outside, I meant the runners inside. A port and polish to smooth out the imperfections and get all the casting residues out.
11-08-2009, 12:16 AM
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how would that work? think of whats going on, this is a diffreance of polished to a normal sand roll or even just carbide porting finish. Even a good modern cast finish isn;t that bad.
Surface finish is a very small percent of restriction. Its the shape the size that matters.
11-12-2009, 12:45 AM
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If you guys were doing a boosted setup, would you most likely go with the BBK manifold? I am swapping a LS1 into a 67 Camaro and it only has Lingenfelter stage 2 heads (so the guy I bought it off of says) for mods to the motor itself. Nothing else except an air intake, but that won't swap over. Anyway, it's going to be turbo'd...the BBK seems to make pretty good power and should be a bit stronger for boosted applications given what it's made of.
02-07-2010, 12:18 PM
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If you guys were doing a boosted setup, would you most likely go with the BBK manifold? I am swapping a LS1 into a 67 Camaro and it only has Lingenfelter stage 2 heads (so the guy I bought it off of says) for mods to the motor itself. Nothing else except an air intake, but that won't swap over. Anyway, it's going to be turbo'd...the BBK seems to make pretty good power and should be a bit stronger for boosted applications given what it's made of.
02-07-2010, 05:26 PM
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I have the bbk and love the looks and power. I also
Have the bbk 85 tb. I woulfnt really worry about heatsoak
I doubt it even affects anything if there is any. U won't notice it while driving on the street
Have the bbk 85 tb. I woulfnt really worry about heatsoak
I doubt it even affects anything if there is any. U won't notice it while driving on the street
02-08-2010, 02:16 PM
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so on a bolt on only car would you notice a difference in the ls6 with a ported TB over the ls1 with a ported TB...isint it like 14hp or something ? what about the butt dyno ?