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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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I bought my car with the K&N and i like it. I dont put any oil on it after I wash it because i dont want to miss up the maf, I also did the free ram air mod so I just wash it out with the hose more frequently lol
WOW MAN!!!!

You are KILLING your rings dude. You're not going to explode the engine, you're not going to go for a drive one day and say, "damn, my car feels like a dog all of a sudden".....but you are slowly, every single time you drive it, letting quite alot of debris and small particles through your engine.

What you will get, is a steadily dying and steadily decreasing performance out of your car over time.

Terrible man..........just terrible.

But its your car. Do yourself and your car a BIG favor....go get a paper filter TODAY. You will be living proof after you do it, that you will not lose a bit of power. Then you can come back here and tell everyone how nothing changed. But you will have proper engine protection.

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PIZDETS
I got rid of my K&N because it made my engine oil dirty too fast, Im talking in 1k miles. Paper filter for me, no filter on the dyno or at the track
Your engine oil......?????

Hows that.....


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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Because the K&N actually filters the incoming air like crap due to its "high flow". It allowed more particles than a paper filter to pass through.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Wow, you all are really making me doubt the cone filter I just bought for my swap. Who makes a high quality dry cone filter? Need a 3.5" inlet.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PIZDETS
Because the K&N actually filters the incoming air like crap due to its "high flow". It allowed more particles than a paper filter to pass through.
The only negative thing that happens from alot of crap getting through, into the engine, is premature wear of the rings. Oil will be uneffected.

Dirt and debris passing through your engine will go into the intake, then through the heads and into the cylinders. They will get combusted along with the air/fuel and then get blasted out through the exhaust. The dirt and debris will never go into the oil.

Now....if you have the worst running engine on earth, with the worst torn up worn rings on earth.....then maybe some of that dirt and debris can somehow, possibly, get passed those rings and into the oil. BUT......you would literally have an engine that can barely run for that to happen. With a normal running engine that is in good condition.....anything that goes through the engine will get blasted out with the exhaust.

Its the little tiny debris and particles that will slowly damage the rings....over time.

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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wow, i really didnt think i was doing any damage. ill go get a paper filter today then. thanks dude!
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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K&N filters are great...IF you like cleaning your filter about once a month.

My filter gets nasty to the point where its super dirty and i have to clean it about every 4-5 weeks.

I'll stick to my paper filters
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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so most competetion race cars around the world use paper filters and magazines tests that show k&n filters or cotton cone filters gains and that it actauly more air pass through the filter in its n/a is all bs and k&n is a plan to take the money out of peoples pocket for all these years?

1-full throttle will shorten the engines life
2-higher lift cams than stock will wear out the heads valve seat faster and more load on the rockers
3-higher rpm shift that the stock rpm limiter is not good for the engine and drivetrain (granny shifting ftw LOL)

keeping the cars in the best condition for the next guy and not enjoying our cars and making it as fast as we can on the budget? not me and these are the stock cars at ebay .... not people on here I think

ok now if we don`t have fram paper filters and only acdelco paper filter is it also good?
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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AC Delco is fine. I use the AC oil filter because its all the same crap. Its about oil change intervals not quality of the paper medium in the aluminum filter.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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ok, i think im just going to stick to the paper filter then, and then at the track/dyno i will just pull the filter out
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by D.Jones
wow, i really didnt think i was doing any damage. ill go get a paper filter today then. thanks dude!
After you put it in, report back here if you felt a difference in performance.

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bader-X
ok now if we don`t have fram paper filters and only acdelco paper filter is it also good?
any paper filter is just fine.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Paper filters Suck
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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no I mean the acdelco air filter is it also good?
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Another vote for a paper filter!!!
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 01'SSLSX
Paper filters Suck
Thats just a moronic statement.

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bader-X
no I mean the acdelco air filter is it also good?
Its probably the best paper filter made. But they are all good, they are so damn simple that they are all pretty much the same quality.

And they actually last way more than 5,000 miles. I look at mine every 3-4 months, if its dirty I bang it out on the ground and a ton of dirt falls out, it makes a pile on the ground. A ton of dirt that didn't get into my engine. No way in hell a K&N would grab all that. After I band it out its almost like new again. Hold it up to the sky and its completely clean like new. They can last a year as long as it doesn't get some weird road grime in there that coats it and clogs the surface somehow. If its clean and not ripped, its good to use again and again.

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Originally Posted by LS6427
The only negative thing that happens from alot of crap getting through, into the engine, is premature wear of the rings. Oil will be uneffected.

Dirt and debris passing through your engine will go into the intake, then through the heads and into the cylinders. They will get combusted along with the air/fuel and then get blasted out through the exhaust. The dirt and debris will never go into the oil.

Now....if you have the worst running engine on earth, with the worst torn up worn rings on earth.....then maybe some of that dirt and debris can somehow, possibly, get passed those rings and into the oil. BUT......you would literally have an engine that can barely run for that to happen. With a normal running engine that is in good condition.....anything that goes through the engine will get blasted out with the exhaust.

Its the little tiny debris and particles that will slowly damage the rings....over time.

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Listen, I need a lesson on how an internal combustion engine works probably as much as you do, Ok?! Chill...My statement came from verifiable experience, and maybe my rings are shot to hell, maybe not, but don't tell what has been seen cannot be unseen

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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ls6427, u r getting way to Worked Up for an Air Filter thread
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Originally Posted by PIZDETS
Listen, I need a lesson on how an internal combustion engine works probably as much as you do, Ok?! Chill...My statement came from verifiable experience, and maybe my rings are shot to hell, maybe not, but don't tell what has been seen cannot be unseen

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I am chilled...that was a calm post about how air going into your engine CANNOT make your oil dirty...FAST.

Thats all.

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