Pacesetter Headers = Poor Quality & Warranty
not sure why people would think pacesetters are a shitty quality. i am sure you can find alot of guys on this site happy with the performance for how much they paid and running fast as ****.
a shinier header is not gonna make you faster. i could care less on how shiny my header is..
a shinier header is not gonna make you faster. i could care less on how shiny my header is..
my fitment was **** for me, I have done many sets of header swaps pacesetters have always fit worse. Hookers have always just slid in for me. with me having to loosen a motor mount to get the bank1 side in isnt good fitment or good quality imo.
(thats the quality issue with me)
(thats the quality issue with me)
Im gonna sound like a jerk here, but you are full of ****.
No way that is garage kept, no rain, 900 mile rust. No way, no how. If you bought the mild steel headers and stripped the paint off of them before you installed them, then drove it 900 miles in dry weather and kept it in a garage they still would not look close to what yours look like. And that y pipe is just aluminized steel, industry standard. That pipe doesnt rust that quick.
You are full of ****, sorry.
Now flame away.
No way that is garage kept, no rain, 900 mile rust. No way, no how. If you bought the mild steel headers and stripped the paint off of them before you installed them, then drove it 900 miles in dry weather and kept it in a garage they still would not look close to what yours look like. And that y pipe is just aluminized steel, industry standard. That pipe doesnt rust that quick.
You are full of ****, sorry.
Now flame away.
not sure why people would think pacesetters are a shitty quality. i am sure you can find alot of guys on this site happy with the performance for how much they paid and running fast as ****.
a shinier header is not gonna make you faster. i could care less on how shiny my header is..
a shinier header is not gonna make you faster. i could care less on how shiny my header is..
I didn't care on my old white car... It was made to go fast and nothing else. My current car is a much nicer car and don't want **** parts on it, hence the Kooks.
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no i have not owned stainless steel headers. i have owned a set of hookers, and pacesetters and i think that the pacesetters tucked up a bit tighter than the hookers.
for spending 500 bucks i am happy with my pacesetters. of course pacesetters aint got nothing on a set of kooks or ARH, but your talking about almost another 600 difference in price. 600 bucks is alot of money towards more go fast parts on our cars.
no i have not owned stainless steel headers. i have owned a set of hookers, and pacesetters and i think that the pacesetters tucked up a bit tighter than the hookers.
for spending 500 bucks i am happy with my pacesetters. of course pacesetters aint got nothing on a set of kooks or ARH, but your talking about almost another 600 difference in price. 600 bucks is alot of money towards more go fast parts on our cars.
for spending 500 bucks i am happy with my pacesetters. of course pacesetters aint got nothing on a set of kooks or ARH, but your talking about almost another 600 difference in price. 600 bucks is alot of money towards more go fast parts on our cars.
My next project.race car will have PS I'm sure. I use to say I would never spend the kind of money Kooks cost, but now on a nice car, it is all I would buy. Purpose built is another story.
I've installed 2 sets of Ebay longtubes. The first set fit great, and split right down the middle of the primaries 3 weeks later. The second set took an act of god to fit correctly. Never again will I install a set, ever.
I got my ceramic coated Pacesetter's and Y over a year ago and they still look good. Not bad for buying the Y and LT's for $260 NEW. Coated Pacesetter's are $500 now? Weren't they $375 before?
Jon
I had one of the first sets from Pacesetter back in 2003 if I remember correctly. They do have a little bit of rust by the collector and also some by the bottom side of the #7 tube. Otherwise the coating is still holding up good. Granted they are holding up good for me, I regret not going stainless.
The car is garage kept in Chicago and has 29,000 miles on it right now. Never seen snow and rarely ever sees rain.
The car is garage kept in Chicago and has 29,000 miles on it right now. Never seen snow and rarely ever sees rain.
my fitment was **** for me, I have done many sets of header swaps pacesetters have always fit worse. Hookers have always just slid in for me. with me having to loosen a motor mount to get the bank1 side in isnt good fitment or good quality imo.
(thats the quality issue with me)
(thats the quality issue with me)
Sometimes this may have to do with the car itself and not the header. I've seen the opposite as you, pacesetters going in easier and hookers being harder. I believe however, that most of the time this was due to the cars themselves and probably did not suggest that pacesetters are easier to install than hookers. IMO, both pacesetters and hookers work well and I'd use either brand again on my car.
dumb thread...you obviously did little to no research. coating might slow the rusting but not gonna prevent it by any means. from my experience they are a good header if you are on a tight budget and just looking for performance not looks. buddy bought non coated 4 almost 5 years ago for his car and they look like **** but still perform great and install was easier than my QTP's but i wanted mine to look good.
he gave you a fair offer i would say as well, so he tried to help you, you turned him down, and then bashed him on the board...
he gave you a fair offer i would say as well, so he tried to help you, you turned him down, and then bashed him on the board...
mine looked kinda discolored after being on the car for alittle more than a year and i put 30k on em not to sound like a dick but maybe you people who are worried about the color of you headers shouldn't drive your car or any performance car . . . These cars are meant to drive not to sit and collect dust when they can be driven