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i thought the whole purpose of the filter was to capture crap from going in your engine???? with that filter does it actually work great like the stock set-up does? in that picture it looks like the air intake itself is blocking the frame where air comes up, so unless you have an Ultra-Z hood or a T/A i wouldn't think you'd get the same airflow as stock, in my mind you'd get less if you have a Camaro because our air comes from underneath or like myself if you have an SS hood you get it from the hood also.
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Those hot air intakes are only good for dyno use with the hood open or ram air. Other then that its junk. Just get a good lid! My lid has been on for 4 years with no problems with smooth bellow and no maff! Sealed good and never popped open 
I have seen many people pick up a tenth with a lid and free ram air mod over that setup at the track.
I have seen many people pick up a tenth with a lid and free ram air mod over that setup at the track. ^ The SLP lid was proven to be the better one (in that size).. GMHTP did an article on it a while ago.. I've had my lid on mine for, god, 6 yrs now.. Never popped off either.. but the crappy seal that came with it didn't last long. It just has to fit in a certain way in order for it to seal right.. Mine fits tight, but not too sure about the back.
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From: Bossier city,LA barksdale AFB
Example My friend had the FIPK intake on his Z28. It was 85 deg out side and with HP tuners hooked up the air intake temp sensor was reading 190deg going down the road and higher at red lights. We put a lid with k&n and free mod and with it 85 degs the air intake temp sensor was reading 85deg
. His car was a auto car and would run 12.1 all night long and had a best of a 12.0 and only ran that one time. With the lid he got a 11.0 and picked up almost 2mph. Everyone knows the cooler air = more HP Now if you have SS hood or Ram air hood it wont be as bad but still gets hot air from under the hood. I have seen people that flat out didnt like lids so they ran that FIPK and cut a smooth hole under the filter on the cover to get some of the cooler air like the free ram air mod.
Last edited by SIC LSX; Feb 19, 2010 at 05:20 PM.
on one of my setups I bought a cone shaped filter from autozone.. I dont remember what vehicle it was for... but it had a 3.5" opening...I ended up putting it straight to my Throttle body(with no MAF)....I only had to shave the plastic cowl on the radiator a smidge in the center
worked great...looked great...
worked great...looked great...
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That's the worst setup you can do throwing a filter on the TB! Put it even closer yo the heat The only way any open filter is good under the hood is if it has a shield around it blocking the heat from the motor!
Somthing like this for trans am
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ca830cc79184ca
For camaro
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ca830cc79184ca
The only way any open filter is good under the hood is if it has a shield around it blocking the heat from the motor!Somthing like this for trans am
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ca830cc79184ca
For camaro
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ca830cc79184ca
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That's the worst setup you can do throwing a filter on the TB! Put it even closer yo the heat The only way any open filter is good under the hood is if it has a shield around it blocking the heat from the motor!
Somthing like this for trans am
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ca830cc79184ca
For camaro
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ca830cc79184ca
The only way any open filter is good under the hood is if it has a shield around it blocking the heat from the motor!Somthing like this for trans am
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ca830cc79184ca
For camaro
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ca830cc79184ca
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From: Bossier city,LA barksdale AFB
yeah Ive seen people cut the bottoms out for the free ram air mod. Some even used the SLP cold air kit or fast toys under it
fast toys
SLP
you get mor air from this then a SS hood
fast toys
SLP
you get mor air from this then a SS hood
I never had a problem with heat on my setup...
once you start moving its all cold air..
my IAT read ambient air temps within 1/2 second of starting to move.
its all about how you get the air in and out of you engine bay
once you start moving its all cold air..
my IAT read ambient air temps within 1/2 second of starting to move.
its all about how you get the air in and out of you engine bay
I wish I could find way to make a lid type setup work for my car....
When you do a ram air mod you get cold air with a straight shot into the engine, my cone filter increases my IAT temps by a minimum of 15* on the highway and they get well over 100* (with 30* outside air temps) at low speeds
When you do a ram air mod you get cold air with a straight shot into the engine, my cone filter increases my IAT temps by a minimum of 15* on the highway and they get well over 100* (with 30* outside air temps) at low speeds
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I wish I could find way to make a lid type setup work for my car....
When you do a ram air mod you get cold air with a straight shot into the engine, my cone filter increases my IAT temps by a minimum of 15* on the highway and they get well over 100* (with 30* outside air temps) at low speeds
When you do a ram air mod you get cold air with a straight shot into the engine, my cone filter increases my IAT temps by a minimum of 15* on the highway and they get well over 100* (with 30* outside air temps) at low speeds
move the iat to the front....closer to the bumper
why would you want it up front...
that moves it away from the point of combustion...
you want the IAT as close to the combustion point as possible without being effected by the combustion heat itself...
example...
at the front of your car...on a cold day... IAT see's 30*
but the air that goes into your intake is at 55* because of the heat of the engine bay...
now you have inaccurate fueling because of bad IAT placement
if you have it just past the Throttle body...
that 55* air is going to be seen by the IAT and your fueling will be corrected properly.(assuming you have the tune dialed in correctly)