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Old May 5, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Just like the title says. I did a search but didnt find anything concrete. I am buying pacesetter longtubes and ORY today and was wondering if i need to dish out $40 for O2 extensions. I have heard of some people tuning out the rear O2 sensors completely. If i deleted the rear O2s does that mean that I would not need the extensions? Im just trying not to waste money.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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You need the o2 extensions for the front.

Not sure what lengths.

I recently did my header install, and I swapped out some pins on the PCM. So, now the pcm sees the rear o2 connections as front o2s
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Old May 5, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Ok man thanks for the info. I wasnt sure if they were for the front or rear. How did you do the pin swap in the PCM?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Assuming its for your 98. Heres a link on how he went about doing the pin swap.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...front-o2s.html

Here is the setup of how your pcm is wired.

http://www.ls2.com/boggs/torques/98pinpcm.htm

Its like a 5 minute job.

o2 extensions wont be necessary if you do this. Since the rear o2 connections are near the o2 bungs on your LT headers.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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I just bought Pacesetter/TSP Y combo from TSP and it says that it comes with "wire to manually extend the front O2 sensor via cutting and splicing." I don't know how hard this is, but I'm definitely going to give the Rear O2 conversion a try.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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when i did mine ,the pass side seemed long enough to not need an extension. but driver side surely did. i just had the rear O2's turned off in the tune.
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I just bought Pacesetter/TSP Y combo from TSP and it says that it comes with "wire to manually extend the front O2 sensor via cutting and splicing." I don't know how hard this is, but I'm definitely going to give the Rear O2 conversion a try.
Don't forget to go by the year of your car. I know from 98 to 99, the wiring changed.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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Well i just bought the headers/ORY with the O2 extensions to make it easy on myself. But i just got a better paying job so its all good
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Originally Posted by Pitbull329
Assuming its for your 98. Heres a link on how he went about doing the pin swap.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...front-o2s.html

Here is the setup of how your pcm is wired.

http://www.ls2.com/boggs/torques/98pinpcm.htm

Its like a 5 minute job.

o2 extensions wont be necessary if you do this. Since the rear o2 connections are near the o2 bungs on your LT headers.
By it being a 5 minute job, it sounds pretty simple, but is there a writeup for this? How do you "swap pins"? I thought you couldn't pull out those wires.
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Get the extensions it makes it easier, if you end up not using them sell them on here. But I had to use them on mine, and I used O2 simulators.
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Originally Posted by Pitbull329
o2 extensions wont be necessary if you do this. Since the rear o2 connections are near the o2 bungs on your LT headers.
Im not sure how different your car is from mine, but my wiring harness for the rear o2s were at the tailshaft of the tranny...AKA nowhere ****** close to the collectors LOL
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Old May 20, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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i just did my headers this past weekend. i got the bosch 3111 oxygen sensors and havent had any probems and they are plenty long i had to actually zip tie some of it cause they were so long. as for the rear o2's you can jus have them tuned out if you get a dyno tune thats what im doing.
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