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Old 04-10-2013, 07:35 PM
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Best write-up I've seen on here, excellent job! I'll be doing Kooks Headers + Kooks True Duals with motor mounts so I will definitely be printing this out and following it step-by-step.

The only thing I'm really worried about is snapping a bolt. I still remember the nightmare of breaking off 2 bolts on my Ford Escort's thermostat housing...took lots of PB Blaster, torch, and a good pair of vice grips to get them out....

If I spray the **** out of everything with PB blaster a few times 24 hours before I do this, will it make getting bolts out easier?
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When I installed LTs on my brothers car I sprayed everything with PB the night before and again right before I started working on it. All the bolts on the y-pipe pretty much broke off. I was lucky because I had no idea how I was going to get to and be able to cut the bolts off the y-pipe that connected it to the manifolds. All the other bolts came off pretty easy. Glad I didn't break any off in the heads.
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Yea, I don't really care if the bolts break off in the exhaust since I'm taking it off anyway but I'm just worried about manifold bolts.
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Thanks! Hope it helps!

Yeah the cat bolts and Y bolts broke, but then again, like you said, they don't matter because you're replacing them anyway.

I didn't have to PB Blaster the manifold bolts at all, they came out without any extra effort, but yeah, I'd assume PB Blaster overnight (and during) would help.
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nice write up
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I have had the same setup except the motor mounts and when it hit the gas aggressively i get a bad vibration only started with the headers and y-pipe dou you think its the y-pipe hit underside under torque and what should i do
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Add me to the list of those who found your write-up invaluable. I just wrapped up this same install at 2:15 this morning

Motor mounts were definitely the most time consuming thing I've done to a vehicle -- what a PITA! Nonetheless, the "BG" jack method saved some major time.

Another point to note is that the TSP Y-pipe now comes with stainless band clamps rather than the guillotine style. The negative about that is it no longer includes the larger "step" style clamp for the collectors. I also had to reuse the factory I-pipe clamp because the 3" were too big (ie: they didn't include a 2.75" clamp).
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Add me to the list of those who found your write-up invaluable. I just wrapped up this same install at 2:15 this morning

Motor mounts were definitely the most time consuming thing I've done to a vehicle -- what a PITA! Nonetheless, the "BG" jack method saved some major time.

Another point to note is that the TSP Y-pipe now comes with stainless band clamps rather than the guillotine style. The negative about that is it no longer includes the larger "step" style clamp for the collectors. I also had to reuse the factory I-pipe clamp because the 3" were too big (ie: they didn't include a 2.75" clamp).
Did your clamps tighten up ok? The band clamps TSP sent with my ory didn't tighten anything. I took a impact to all of them and you would still be able to pull the inner pipe out...was really kinda pissed about that. I had to send the wife out to get a bunch of C-clamps to replace the crap ones that didn't work.
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I think if they'd notch all of the connections like the I-pipe comes from the factory then they'd seal a lot better. I had to wrench on them to get them to tighten, but I think they're good. I was going to jack it up this week though to re-tighten. I did, however, need to buy a TorcTite clamp for the passenger side connection as the OD pipe just seemed way too big and wouldn't not tighten whatsoever.
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just used this write-up for my BBK LT and MM install this week and got it done in about 20 hrs 100% by myself!!!! this write-up was priceless!!! thanks cyberkill!

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Originally Posted by WhiteHawk489
just used this write-up for my BBK LT and MM install this week and got it done in about 20 hrs 100% by my self!!!! this write-up was priceless!!! thanks cyberkill!
Congrats, but I hear the BBK headers fit really good and if memory serves, BBK=1 3/4 and some others like TSP are 1 7/8 so I am sure that extra clearance helps too.
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Saving thread for close future reference! I'm glad I ran across this thread without a doubt. TSP LT and ORY install will make this much easier I'm sure. Might as well go for the motor mounts as well.
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Congrats, but I hear the BBK headers fit really good and if memory serves, BBK=1 3/4 and some others like TSP are 1 7/8 so I am sure that extra clearance helps too.
Yeah they are 1 3/4". Fit great! Tuck up better then the stock headers/cats/y, I was really impressed! Passenger side is a hair too tight against the floor pan heat shield but that was the only issue.
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Excellent write up!!
This helped a bunch when I was doing the motor mounts. The trick with the scissor jack worked perfect. I can't believe trying to install the bolt without using the jack method.

I installed kooks 1 7/8 w/o air. Passenger side was super easy. For the driver's side I only removed the oil filter. Looking back on it, I probably could have unbolted the steering shaft because it was just a little snug. Otherwise, real easy.

Thanks again for the write up.
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For the driver's side I only removed the oil filter. Looking back on it, I probably could have unbolted the steering shaft because it was just a little snug.
Steering shaft removal > oil filter removal. I had a ton of room with the shaft out and the filter still on. Ease over [oily] mess any day
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The instructions that came from Kooks, called for the oil filter to be removed, but not the steering shaft.

There is definitely a sweet spot on the driver's side which the headers will pop into place.

cyberkill - Again, why isn't this a sticky?

Probably took me around 20 hours as well, over a 3 day span, working at a moderate pace.
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cyberkill - Again, why isn't this a sticky?
Lol, iono? Maybe they're waiting for me to actually add step numbers and bolt sizes before doing so. Haha.

In any case, I'm not sure I like this imageshack thing, as they're really unreliable. I'd say 80% of the pictures show, but there's that 20% that don't show unless you refresh a million times...

I'm thinking of moving them to my Comcast web space, and see if that makes a difference. When I am actually un-lazy enough to do that, I'll add the step numbers while I'm at it.
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Thanks for the great write up. I used this last week to throw on some ebay headers and this was a big help. Had a bunch of issues: O2 sensor on driver's side hitting heat shield, both sides hitting k member, primary hitting the steering shaft, y pipe not mating to i pipe, but it was nothing a sawzall, a grinder and a BFH couldn't fix.
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Bump! This still needs to be a sticky!!!

Everything went great on my install all thanks to this write-up. I was able to get headers, spark plugs/wires, motor mounts, and Kooks true duals installed all within about 30 hours. I followed your write-up step for step and never ran into any issues other a few stubborn bolts but a little heat and PB Blaster took care of those. That scissor jack idea is a life-saver. Thanks again for such an awesome write-up.
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Bump! This still needs to be a sticky!!!
As a newly-appointed mod, I now bestow stickiness unto this thread of ye infinite wisdom!


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