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Old 01-16-2004, 04:37 PM
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8POTS, any other info on that HSV GST300, where can I read about it?
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Just fyi. Here's an email I got directly from FAST:

Jeff,

On a stock LS1, we saw about a 20 hp. increase. We saw about 15 hp over the
LS6 manifold. The manifold is available in either a 78 or 90 mm version.
The 90 mm is used in application like heads, cam, power adder applications.
Where as the 78 mm is utilized in more "minor" bolt on applications.

The cost of the 78 mm is $875.00 and the 90 mm is $962.00. The manifold
will be available for purchase in the first week of January. We are now
taking orders for the first run. If you would like to purchase one of the
LSX's, give me a buzz at (662)-224-9336.

Regards,
Old 01-16-2004, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CANNIBAL
8POTS, any other info on that HSV GST300, where can I read about it?
I think you should pay the Aussie crowd a visit at www.ls1.com.au...we're a nice bunch There are some very switched on people there who can go right into it for you.

The HSV GTS300 is different in that it has has a massage by Callaway there in the US...heads , cam etc...the MAFless tune for it was coded here by HSV. The LS1 edit tuners here use this code as a basis for their custom work where a customer wants a MAFless tune.

Problem may be for US owners that all your LS1s are tuned from the factory to use a MAF regardless of the car built...C5 or humble F-Body and so there is no local code for a MAFless setup. Not sure if our tune will suit your cars and I think the computers are a wee bit different from memory. Post a query on our site and see if someone like 'Delco' has an answer for you. I suspect there is a difficulty only because if it were easy to use in US computers, I'd expect to be seeing quite a few US cars sans their MAFs by now.

If your going with a 90mm TB , it might be nice to be 90mm all the way through the induction path rather than stuffing air past a 84-85mm MAF. A MAfless tune is an obvious way of removing that bottleneck.

I noticed someone above mention a 90mm 'Pro M' MAF...that might do the trick too of course....I didn't realise a 90mm MAF existed for our cars. Live and learn I guess.

But lots of people here love the MAFless tunes , no dramas running off the MAP sensor and we are a couple of years on from the first custom versions of this style of tuning Perhaps some switched on tuners there (not your 'mailorder tuners') have or are in the process of looking at 'loosing the MAF'. Dunno.

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almost 25000 views on this post alone, amazing..Can you say we were eagerly awaiting results or what??!!
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
almost 25000 views on this post alone, amazing..Can you say we were eagerly awaiting results or what??!!

JEFF,

How's the FLorida life treating you brother!!! HOpe all is well. I can truly say in the middle of a Chicago winter(all be it a mild on so far) i would MUCH RATHER be in FLA right now than Chicago!!!


Anyone/THUNDER:

Any results yet from the 03 z06 with bolt ons that you were going to test today Saturday, with the LSX intake?
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What's up! Florida life is treating me very well. Here's a pic I took two weeks ago, it was 80 degrees and everybody had their ride out. Come on out and visit sometime!


As you can see, life aint too bad...
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
What's up! Florida life is treating me very well. Here's a pic I took two weeks ago, it was 80 degrees and everybody had their ride out. Come on out and visit sometime!


As you can see, life aint too bad...



SCHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!! !!!
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Nice Gains!
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Originally Posted by 8POTS
If your going with a 90mm TB , it might be nice to be 90mm all the way through the induction path rather than stuffing air past a 84-85mm MAF. A MAfless tune is an obvious way of removing that bottleneck.


But lots of people here love the MAFless tunes , no dramas running off the MAP sensor and we are a couple of years on from the first custom versions of this style of tuning Perhaps some switched on tuners there (not your 'mailorder tuners') have or are in the process of looking at 'loosing the MAF'. Dunno.
There is a popular tuner here in the US that can delete the mass air and convert our cars to speed density. He actually came down to our local shop yesterday and converted a 98 TA to speed density. It is deffinatlly a process that needs to be done on the dyno, but the gains were very good.
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oh really, what kind of gains
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
There is a popular tuner here in the US that can delete the mass air and convert our cars to speed density. He actually came down to our local shop yesterday and converted a 98 TA to speed density. It is deffinatlly a process that needs to be done on the dyno, but the gains were very good.
What kind of cost to convert to speed density?? What all is needed, just programming??
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I'd like to see some spray #s.
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MAF less or Speed Density tunes have better throttle response. It should be simple to do a MAF less tune. I think East Side Performance has experience with exactly this sort of thing.
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Why are there 4 runs difference between the before and after runs instead of back to back? Also can you post the acutal run files where we can all download them and look at them with the dynojet viewer?
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or you can buy the AEM EMS standalone PCM which is due to come out in 2 months..Mafless, built in wideband, and progressive nitrous controller.
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Originally Posted by SSactionLs1
or you can buy the AEM EMS standalone PCM which is due to come out in 2 months
Since when? Last time I talked directly to AEM about this they can't get ahold of the GM PCM connectors. They do have some directly wired to the harness though for testing and they have been running the LS1 from their EMS for quite some time now. Just need the connectors.
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good info keep it up guys
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what happened to the test they were supposed to do on a stock ZO6 sunday ?? any results ???
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I wonder what i could gain with my new setup in my sig. below? And would i be better
off with the 90mm version with the 90mm TB from FAST? When GTP gets his intakes
in, he has one set aside for me after he gets done testing it to see if it will help with my new setup. I saw it as SEMA and it looks like it has a lot of potential. Since i'll need either a 85mm or 90mm TB, maybe the intake is worth trying. I just keep thinking the 90mm intake might be alittle too big even for a 383 stroker with a 12#-15# D1SC kit. But i'll just wait til Craig from GTP calls me and gives me the scoop.
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Originally Posted by Nic00Z28M6
Since when? Last time I talked directly to AEM about this they can't get ahold of the GM PCM connectors. They do have some directly wired to the harness though for testing and they have been running the LS1 from their EMS for quite some time now. Just need the connectors.

my friend (a member here) is getting one for his zo6 in march..


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