Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Disconnect Battery when putting on SLP Lid?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:01 PM
  #1  
Rise of the Phoenix's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,728
Likes: 13
From: Jefferson City, MO
Default Disconnect Battery when putting on SLP Lid?

I know the instructions say to do this, but is it necessary? Also, if I do disconnect the battery, would just diconnecting the black (negative) be ok, or should I disconnect both negative and positive?
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:03 PM
  #2  
Fb0dy0nly's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,490
Likes: 2
From: Detroit ROCK City
Default

Really....?
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:22 PM
  #3  
stingrayj's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
From: Hanover, PA
Default

The purpose is to reset the computer to relearn the A/F settings. It will do this over time anyway, but disconnecting the battery will speed up the process. After the computer relearns the settings, you will be back to square one since it will do its best to match the A/F curve programmed in the computer. In other words, without a tune a CAI doesn't do much at all.

The best that you could hope for long term is slightly improved mpg (assuming the lid is the point of restriction) and slightly better throttle response.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my general understanding of all modern engines.

And disconnecting the negative battery will do the trick.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:32 PM
  #4  
happysem's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
From: McKinney, Tx
Default

^^ You're right, all those bolt on non-tuned LS1s that dyno 30+rwhp higher than stock and trap several mph higher are all lies.

I just put in LT's, ported TB, and a lid (plus new plugs/wires over the ORIGINALS and all that jazz) but I bet I didn't gain any power, what a waste of time!

This thread shall be epic.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:44 PM
  #5  
redtan's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 17
From: Belmont, MA
Default

In other words, without a tune a CAI doesn't do much at all.
Sure it can, it removes a restriction and allows for more air to enter the combustion chamber. Part throttle the o2 sensors will learn the new airflow and adjust fueling if necessary. At WOT the extra airflow will not be learned without a tune, but it's not nearly enough of a change to not make it worth more power. Also, the stock tune is rather rich at WOT, so this helps lean it out which is known to add power.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:46 PM
  #6  
LS1WS6dreamer's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 575
Likes: 0
From: Arkansas
Default

Originally Posted by happysem
^^ You're right, all those bolt on non-tuned LS1s that dyno 30+rwhp higher than stock and trap several mph higher are all lies.

I just put in LT's, ported TB, and a lid (plus new plugs/wires over the ORIGINALS and all that jazz) but I bet I didn't gain any power, what a waste of time!

This thread shall be epic.
Yeah I just got done with LT's. Apparently, my computer hasn't reset itself back to OEM settings yet. Still got "sideways on demand"... I do kinda see what stingrayj is saying and to a certain extent I would prolly bet that its true, but numbers and track times don't lie!
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 02:58 PM
  #7  
stingrayj's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
From: Hanover, PA
Default

Originally Posted by LS1WS6dreamer
Yeah I just got done with LT's. Apparently, my computer hasn't reset itself back to OEM settings yet. Still got "sideways on demand"... I do kinda see what stingrayj is saying and to a certain extent I would prolly bet that its true, but numbers and track times don't lie!
My comments were in consideration of a lid only.

LTs will address a significant point of restriction, so you will notice improvement without a tune. However, a lid alone can only do so much. In either case, just bolting stuff on is only the first step. You won't realize the full potential of those parts until you get a proper tune. And I say that based on past experience.

A lid by itself may show some improvement in the 1/4 mile but you're not going to notice much on your daily commute. I'm not saying don't get a lid, rather it is just one piece of the bigger picture. With that said, I plan to get a lid in the near future for my car.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 03:36 PM
  #8  
Rise of the Phoenix's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,728
Likes: 13
From: Jefferson City, MO
Default

I got long tubes and a true dual exhaust put on a few weeks ago, and I'm going to put the SLP lid and new fliter on tonight. I'm going to get a tune once I get the lid on, but I can already tell a difference with just the long tubes and exhaust.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 22, 2011 | 03:48 PM
  #9  
happysem's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
From: McKinney, Tx
Default

Ok, I agree with you they will finish "unlocking" the potential of each mod.

I thought you meant bolt ons did nothing until you were tuned lol.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:08 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE