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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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I didn't drain my catch can for a while on purpose, couple of power tours, track days and etc. I got around to cleaning it this week and poured a lot of oil out. WOW! I have a LS-6 valley cover and AMW can. If it wasn't for the can all that oil would be down my intake. If you don't have a can on your early LS motor you need to get to work.


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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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What catch can is that and where is it from?
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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What catch can is that and where is it from?
He told you in the first post - AMW (Accurate Machine Works). I bought mine years ago before they implemented a huge price hike, but they are very nice catch cans. I've been running it ever since, and it still catches a fair amount of oil between changes.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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It is surprising just how much blow-by happens, especially when you are "hammering" it a little. All the more reason to be sure to mount it where the drain petcock is easily accessible...........or..........easily removable. Good Info!!
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What catch can is that and where is it from?
Accurate Machine Works, out of College Station, Tx. Ultra high quality item.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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He told you in the first post - AMW (Accurate Machine Works). I bought mine years ago before they implemented a huge price hike, but they are very nice catch cans. I've been running it ever since, and it still catches a fair amount of oil between changes.
Yea! they are proud of them $$$. I bought it back before they got crazy with the price. The same design, great quality and affordable $ is the Norris Motorsports Can, Mike is a sponser here and would recomend going with his setup if your serious
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Yeah, a CC is a good idea, and a must on a H/C/I engine. I run a ls6 vc, 2 CC, and a restrictor( with 1/16" hole) in the line going back into the intake. With all that I still drain around 4oz out of my larger CC every month. I do a lot of short/stop-n-go drives so I contribute the quantity a lot to that.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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thats alot of oil. good thing u had that there. looking at finish my oil catch can set up and cant find any one way check valves that r big enough for the lines where did u pic urs up at.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Do you need a catch can on just a cam only LS1? (01-02 model)
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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I just use a breather on my crankcase and cap off the part of the pcv system to my manifold. Been dd on it forever, no problems so far.
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No need for a can....one or two breathers and cap off every vacuum port everywhere. Oil is clean as a whistle, no moisture, no nothing.

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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Suzaku
I just use a breather on my crankcase and cap off the part of the pcv system to my manifold. Been dd on it forever, no problems so far.
Originally Posted by LS6427
No need for a can....one or two breathers and cap off every vacuum port everywhere. Oil is clean as a whistle, no moisture, no nothing.

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... same here. Do you guys have a photo? Mine was setup by Vengeance with a breather, valley & manifold cap with the valve cover still tubed to the throttle body.
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im not sure i see how this is plumbed. is it just a can in the line from pcv to intake? what advantages are there and what keeps you from just running breathers and plugging the lines? is this for emissions legal stuff?

not an ls, but on my old sbc i never ran a pcv. made a mess. im guessing you guys have to for some reason.

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Originally Posted by 430 hp 70
im not sure i see how this is plumbed. is it just a can in the line from pcv to intake? what advantages are there and what keeps you from just running breathers and plugging the lines? is this for emissions legal stuff?

not an ls, but on my old sbc i never ran a pcv. made a mess. im guessing you guys have to for some reason.

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Yea...instead of simply sucking crankcase gases directly out of the valley cover port......a can is put inline and the oil gets captured in it so it does not go into the intake.

But yes....all you need are breathers and you can cap off all ports, then there's no way oil can go into the intake.

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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianSF-GA
... same here. Do you guys have a photo? Mine was setup by Vengeance with a breather, valley & manifold cap with the valve cover still tubed to the throttle body.
Well....I put a breather on the drivers side valve cover (picture below), then I connected a vacuum line to suck fresh air and crankcase gases from the passengers side valve cover (pictured). Then I capped off my valley cover port and TB ports. So fresh goes into the drivers side valve cover and across the entire engine and out the passengers side.

But I have a needle valve in the vacuum line so I can adjust how strong that vacuum is pulling on the crankcase gases. I also completely shut it off for about 1 year to see what would happen.....absolutely no change at all in anything. Vacuum is not needed, just breathers.

I used a cigarette while it was idling and the needle valve wide open and it sucks all the smoke right into that filter. Since factory vacuum strength is way too much, I have it set at about 1/2 that.....and not a drop of oil is in my intake.

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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by projectX
Do you need a catch can on just a cam only LS1? (01-02 model)
If your getting oil in the intake; yes!
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
yes!
Just wanted to eliminate any confusion. Yes is the only answer to the question "Do I need a catch can?"
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 03:35 AM
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I have had a catch can for months and have not installed it. Best way to install it? Write up?
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Originally Posted by blown97ss
thats alot of oil. good thing u had that there. looking at finish my oil catch can set up and cant find any one way check valves that r big enough for the lines where did u pic urs up at.
It's something I've had for awhile. I've got a whole drawer full of miscellaneous, nuts, bolts, and small parts, I found it in there I think it might of been a carburetor part.
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Originally Posted by PowerShift408
Just wanted to eliminate any confusion. Yes is the only answer to the question "Do I need a catch can?"
Do you have oil in your intake..?

You can try using one of the newer GM truck PCV valves, except it's really just a vacuum restrictor, it has a really small hole in it(around 1/16" to 1/8" ), and nothing inside it. That might be all you need, if not then get a CC. I found that if you place the CC away for engine heat(I mounted one of mine below the passenger side headlight) it'll be even more effective at trapping crank case vapors.
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