Victor EFI
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Victor EFI Is any one using edlebrock #3847 elbow for a single plane EFI intake? It is rated to only 400 hp but will accept a 90 mm throttle body. Did you have to cut the cowl? I will if need be but I'm just curious. Also any body able to compare a single plane to a FAST intake ? I believe a single plane will make more power from 3500 up, but would like to here from experienced users and hopefully from people who have used both and could compare the two with track times or even dyno numbers. Please list your cams gears trans and other mods
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A "fixed" super Vic will kill a fast through the entire power band if cammed correctly. Out of the box a super Vic will still make more top end than a fast. The problem is nobody sets up a single plane to succeed. Usually it's a long runner cam with a junk elbow and people wonder why it lost 50ftlb down low
Ok well after you "fix" the super vic, and set it up correctly, you have once again an intake setup that performs very well low to mid range, and awesome up top. A "fixed" fast 102 properly cammed will perform awesome throughout the entire power band and still retain better drive ability than the single plane, esp when it comes to lower end.
I agree the single plane will probably be a better choice for a straight up race car but in the end after the "fixing" and the stupidly priced 4150/4500 throttle bodies, you will have just as much in that setup as you would a fast setup that will work better across the board.
I agree the single plane will probably be a better choice for a straight up race car but in the end after the "fixing" and the stupidly priced 4150/4500 throttle bodies, you will have just as much in that setup as you would a fast setup that will work better across the board.
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Just using an example: according to Texas speed and performance, using there ms4, the victor will make more horse power all though a little higher in rpm. I was hoping for some response from actual users of both intakes with "off the shelf cam set up". My 78 Malibu will get a victor with a custom ground camshaft from Futral Motorsports. But my trans am will be daily driven with a MS4 from Texas speed I got for a Christmas present. Tsp also recomended a 4000 converter atleast with the ms4 and single plane and stated over the phone that will make more power then a fast
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Ok well after you "fix" the super vic, and set it up correctly, you have once again an intake setup that performs very well low to mid range, and awesome up top. A "fixed" fast 102 properly cammed will perform awesome throughout the entire power band and still retain better drive ability than the single plane, esp when it comes to lower end.
I agree the single plane will probably be a better choice for a straight up race car but in the end after the "fixing" and the stupidly priced 4150/4500 throttle bodies, you will have just as much in that setup as you would a fast setup that will work better across the board.
I agree the single plane will probably be a better choice for a straight up race car but in the end after the "fixing" and the stupidly priced 4150/4500 throttle bodies, you will have just as much in that setup as you would a fast setup that will work better across the board.
Bww3588...
You obviously have no idea..
A victor series intake is around $400
The 4150 will run you around 550 ish...give or take depending on where you get it and if they have a special going on at the moment..
Either way, its less money than just the fast intake alone...
If you buy a cam before buying an intake, then of course your cam choice will probably be the reason a victor series would appear to not do as well in lower areas or in street driving..
Just buy the right cam design, and its not going to be an issue at all..
They also tend to be cheaper to port.
It's easier to work on, and if you do go too far, you can just weld in material and go at it again.
Not to mention the benefits you get from straighter airflow through the intake, and more plenum volume in general.
Most people have no idea of what differences are needed for a victor series intake.... You appear to be one of them
Last edited by soundengineer; Jan 5, 2012 at 01:05 AM.
Squirlnutz...
The 90* elbows that go to a single blade tb, really kill power... They are very inneficient..
I know its to not have to cut the cowl, but just be aware that switching to a 4150 and a decent carb hat, will net anywhere from 20 to 50 more horsepower in some cases.
Also, depending in cam size, carb spacers can net some power and torque with a carb style intake.
4 hole, POW, or a combo spacer, all have different benefits to them.
None of the carb spacers will do anything on a single blade throttlebody on the front of a 90* elbow
The 90* elbows that go to a single blade tb, really kill power... They are very inneficient..
I know its to not have to cut the cowl, but just be aware that switching to a 4150 and a decent carb hat, will net anywhere from 20 to 50 more horsepower in some cases.
Also, depending in cam size, carb spacers can net some power and torque with a carb style intake.
4 hole, POW, or a combo spacer, all have different benefits to them.
None of the carb spacers will do anything on a single blade throttlebody on the front of a 90* elbow
Outcast, I'm not arguing that a properly setup victor series will work great, it just depends on the application. If my car was 100 percent track, I would go the single plane route, but it's not.
Also, I'm not sure where your getting all this plentm volume in the victor, but it has less plentm volume than the fast.
By the time the average person buys the victor, 4 hole tb and has is fixed as you would say, I'm assuming you mean ported, they will have just as much in it as a comparable fast setup.
Take identical engines, and set them up optimaly for both intake setups and 9 times out of ten the fast setup will out perform the victor series across the board. A lot less in the upper rpm range, but as far as low to high all around useable power, the fast will be the winner.
Again, I don't debate for a high running track only car that never see's the street, A victor setup will be the way to go hands down, but for all around performance, fast no doubt.
And as far as me knowing how to set one up to succeed, I've probably forgotten more about it than you will ever know.
That being said, I agree to dis agree, there is a setup and style of car for each intake. Both are great pieces.
Also, I'm not sure where your getting all this plentm volume in the victor, but it has less plentm volume than the fast.
By the time the average person buys the victor, 4 hole tb and has is fixed as you would say, I'm assuming you mean ported, they will have just as much in it as a comparable fast setup.
Take identical engines, and set them up optimaly for both intake setups and 9 times out of ten the fast setup will out perform the victor series across the board. A lot less in the upper rpm range, but as far as low to high all around useable power, the fast will be the winner.
Again, I don't debate for a high running track only car that never see's the street, A victor setup will be the way to go hands down, but for all around performance, fast no doubt.
And as far as me knowing how to set one up to succeed, I've probably forgotten more about it than you will ever know.
That being said, I agree to dis agree, there is a setup and style of car for each intake. Both are great pieces.
