LS6 vs BBK intake
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Haven't made any purchases just yet. Just gathering info at the moment. Yes these were Tony's exact words. Honestly, when you factor in that a LS6 and Fast 78 go for about the same price (and you don't need to purchase another TB) the ported 78 seems like the best bang for the buck overall IMO
I agree. Especially since OP already has a 370 with heads/cam his gains will be greater. I bought a used FAST 102 with LS3 fuel rails and LS1 injectors for $650 and had it sent to Tony for porting. If your patient a good deal will be found. You can recoup cost by selling your stock parts and not have to deal with wondering what power you left on the table by going with a FAST 78.
I agree I bought a fast 102 with only dyno time on it for 640. After speaking with tony he didnt think his porting would gain much over what I could do at home since my heads were still stock. I modeled my porting after one of his intakes and got his seal of approval afterwards. Stand up guy imo. If I had the extra money he would have ported it.
Peak performance will port it for 250.00...they specialize in porting Intakes and Throttle Bodies. I had them port my 92 and they did a fantastic job. They told me 8-12whp gains.
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Why is Peak Performance so much cheaper than Tony I wonder. I mean that's less than half the price lol. Also for you guys finding the 102 so cheap, is that just for the intake alone or with the TB and all?
Tony does more extensive porting than most. Part of which he has said is getting the runners as straight as possible and several other tricks. A lot of intake porters just remove the large swirl ramp like casting from the runners and call it good without even cracking the shell open and their price reflects that.
Tony charges top dollar because what he does is very time consuming and his time is worth $$$.
If you're seriously considering adding the cost of porting to your intake swap, you might be better off to just make the jump to the bigger intake and get it ported later (or do it yourself)
Tony charges top dollar because what he does is very time consuming and his time is worth $$$.
If you're seriously considering adding the cost of porting to your intake swap, you might be better off to just make the jump to the bigger intake and get it ported later (or do it yourself)
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Verdad Gallardo Far as the 102, that is just for the Intake normally. By the time you buy fuel rails and a TB you will still be over 1k. That is what makes the 90/92 nice because you can use your stock fuel rails which will support more horsepower than any NA LS1 is capable of making. That right there is 200.00 savings. If Pat G made 500whp with a Fast 90, X-ER lobes, LS7 lifters, it kind of makes you wonder why all of a sudden we need these fancy Johnson lifters, HUC lobes, and 102 intakes to make power.
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Tony does more extensive porting than most. Part of which he has said is getting the runners as straight as possible and several other tricks. A lot of intake porters just remove the large swirl ramp like casting from the runners and call it good without even cracking the shell open and their price reflects that.
Tony charges top dollar because what he does is very time consuming and his time is worth $$$.
If you're seriously considering adding the cost of porting to your intake swap, you might be better off to just make the jump to the bigger intake and get it ported later (or do it yourself)
Tony charges top dollar because what he does is very time consuming and his time is worth $$$.
If you're seriously considering adding the cost of porting to your intake swap, you might be better off to just make the jump to the bigger intake and get it ported later (or do it yourself)
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Hell if they are within 2-3 hp of each other but one charges $250 and the other $550, then the $250 deal sounds better to me.
Btw, if any of you come across any smoking deals please let me know. I already made a thread in the parts classifies on here, put an ad on Craigslist, and am looking hard right now
Btw, if any of you come across any smoking deals please let me know. I already made a thread in the parts classifies on here, put an ad on Craigslist, and am looking hard right now
If you ever see a manifold manifold you'll know why lol it's half the price and you will get gains and in a mild build tony will be the first to tell you his May not pick up much over a regular port BUT on a serious h/c setup Tony's will be worth another 10 over vengeance or peak.
I'll keep an eye out, I suggest looking on eBay as there's actually some good deals on fasts there. I picked mine up on there Also check corvette forum as well. Get a 102 if you can, it's a little more work to get on but will be worth more power now and alter on if you go bigger
I disagree about the 102 being a lot more expensive. Ls3 fuel rails can be bought all day for 60-75 bucks I got mine for 30 shopping around on here. Then adapters range from 30-80 bucks depending on what injectors you use. And if you get injectors anyway you may need adapters if you mount them on a 92 depending on the style. In the end it cost me 150 more to go with a 102 over a 90/92 and it's worth 5-10 hp solid deal if you ask me
I'll keep an eye out, I suggest looking on eBay as there's actually some good deals on fasts there. I picked mine up on there Also check corvette forum as well. Get a 102 if you can, it's a little more work to get on but will be worth more power now and alter on if you go bigger
I disagree about the 102 being a lot more expensive. Ls3 fuel rails can be bought all day for 60-75 bucks I got mine for 30 shopping around on here. Then adapters range from 30-80 bucks depending on what injectors you use. And if you get injectors anyway you may need adapters if you mount them on a 92 depending on the style. In the end it cost me 150 more to go with a 102 over a 90/92 and it's worth 5-10 hp solid deal if you ask me
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Thanks redbird! I'll definitely check ebay and the vette forums as well!
Btw there is a guy about 30 miles from me selling a ported Fast 102 (lsxr I believe) with a ported LS2 TB with fuel rails and supporting accessories for $1000. Does this sound like a good deal?
Btw there is a guy about 30 miles from me selling a ported Fast 102 (lsxr I believe) with a ported LS2 TB with fuel rails and supporting accessories for $1000. Does this sound like a good deal?
HCI2000SS, might better off to scratch the whole idea all together for the time being, wait and save a little longer until its feasible to pick a Fast 92 or 102 and a ported LS2 TB. Because I'm sure your motor could benefit from the bigger intake.
If you ever see a manifold manifold you'll know why lol it's half the price and you will get gains and in a mild build tony will be the first to tell you his May not pick up much over a regular port BUT on a serious h/c setup Tony's will be worth another 10 over vengeance or peak.
I'll keep an eye out, I suggest looking on eBay as there's actually some good deals on fasts there. I picked mine up on there Also check corvette forum as well. Get a 102 if you can, it's a little more work to get on but will be worth more power now and alter on if you go bigger
I disagree about the 102 being a lot more expensive. Ls3 fuel rails can be bought all day for 60-75 bucks I got mine for 30 shopping around on here. Then adapters range from 30-80 bucks depending on what injectors you use. And if you get injectors anyway you may need adapters if you mount them on a 92 depending on the style. In the end it cost me 150 more to go with a 102 over a 90/92 and it's worth 5-10 hp solid deal if you ask me
I'll keep an eye out, I suggest looking on eBay as there's actually some good deals on fasts there. I picked mine up on there Also check corvette forum as well. Get a 102 if you can, it's a little more work to get on but will be worth more power now and alter on if you go bigger
I disagree about the 102 being a lot more expensive. Ls3 fuel rails can be bought all day for 60-75 bucks I got mine for 30 shopping around on here. Then adapters range from 30-80 bucks depending on what injectors you use. And if you get injectors anyway you may need adapters if you mount them on a 92 depending on the style. In the end it cost me 150 more to go with a 102 over a 90/92 and it's worth 5-10 hp solid deal if you ask me
ya mine came painted a hideous blue, probably why it was cheap lol. I sanded it and used a GOOD and i cant stress that enough, rattle can along with good clear. this is what it looks like
I just sprayed mine with Krylon satin black and the letter with a paint marker (cut the tip flat with a razor blade).
No sanding, no clear, no adhesion promoter, no primer.
This color is nice because if I scratch it working on the car you can just wipe it with a clean rag and spray some to touch up that spot...no worries about blending color or clear.
No sanding, no clear, no adhesion promoter, no primer.
This color is nice because if I scratch it working on the car you can just wipe it with a clean rag and spray some to touch up that spot...no worries about blending color or clear.
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What do you guys think of this deal? It's local to me
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/pts/4752946445.html
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/pts/4752946445.html
I personally think thats a little high. See what he would do without the tb. You can get a brand new intake for 800. Also the port job on that looks like someone sneezed on it with a dremel. The factory finish is still viewable in the runners and the bellmouths were barely touched.
I can tell you from experience on the 102 that the bellmouths have very sharp angles that can be rolled over and smoothed, then the runnerand port need to be opened up to have a smooth flow from the main runner part
I can tell you from experience on the 102 that the bellmouths have very sharp angles that can be rolled over and smoothed, then the runnerand port need to be opened up to have a smooth flow from the main runner part