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Old 12-27-2018, 07:29 PM
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You come on here announcing you got a set of headers. Not dissing that. But now that we all know, is there a question or comment?
Does there have to be? I made a simple comment and apparently someone did ask about the fit/quality and sound. Soooooooooooo....IDK you tell me?

Not sure why me posting in a old thread would make you say that irrelevant comment.

Just my .02
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No there does not have to be. Usually there is a reason to make such a post. Whether to get more info or to solicit comments. Neither was mentioned. Did not mean to ruffle any feathers.
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No there does not have to be. Usually there is a reason to make such a post. Whether to get more info or to solicit comments. Neither was mentioned. Did not mean to ruffle any feathers.
NP man, no feathers ruffled here.
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Necro thread, but how are those Speed Engineering headers holding up? Thinking about adding some to the truck but more worried about longevity and problems.
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Originally Posted by 4EyedTurd1
Necro thread, but how are those Speed Engineering headers holding up? Thinking about adding some to the truck but more worried about longevity and problems.
I had a set of Speed Engineering 1 7/8 headers installed on my 02 Z28.

Build quality is good

Making power excellent

Fitment is poor. Collectors are basically in the floorboard.

Sound quality is shitty, typical for a cheap thin walled header.

Other LS headers I've had all fit better. Hookers, Kook's & Hawk's. They also sounded better etc.

I think you get what you pay for and the Speed Engineering are a good deal for that bottom dollar cheapo header.
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
I had a set of Speed Engineering 1 7/8 headers installed on my 02 Z28.

Build quality is good

Making power excellent

Fitment is poor. Collectors are basically in the floorboard.

Sound quality is shitty, typical for a cheap thin walled header.

Other LS headers I've had all fit better. Hookers, Kook's & Hawk's. They also sounded better etc.

I think you get what you pay for and the Speed Engineering are a good deal for that bottom dollar cheapo header.
Maybe I'm in the minority here but I had zero issues with the fitment with my Speed Engineering setup. I bought them used from another member. Slipped right up and were 1 7/8 headers. Also have their 3" ORY. Zero issues there as well. I guess I got lucky. I am very pleased.
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Well I have KOOKS 2"s on the 01 and absolutely zero fitment issues. I purchased the TSP 1-7/8's for the 99 racer but they haven't been on a running engine so can't speak for sound quality but I think more of that goes into the overall exhaust set up. Quality looks to be every bit as good as the KOOKS but they are a thinner gauge steel. TSP's get my vote.
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Originally Posted by Tyler Dietzenbach
Maybe I'm in the minority here but I had zero issues with the fitment with my Speed Engineering setup. I bought them used from another member. Slipped right up and were 1 7/8 headers. Also have their 3" ORY. Zero issues there as well. I guess I got lucky. I am very pleased.
Glad the S.E. headers worked out good for you.

I think they have some consistency issues in manufacturing. My car has almost new motor mounts and that made fitment worse. I dislike my Speed Engineering headers enough to replace them when the new engine goes in the car.
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Glad the S.E. headers worked out good for you.

I think they have some consistency issues in manufacturing. My car has almost new motor mounts and that made fitment worse. I dislike my Speed Engineering headers enough to replace them when the new engine goes in the car.
Haha wow. I did poly mounts at the same time. Everything lined up for everything. Judging by the amount of motor mount threads I also got lucky there. I'm sure there are considerable differences in quality/fitment in those.
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I just had SE 1⅞ headers and y installed on my car. The y pipe fits terribly on the driver side. Right against the floor pan by the transmission crossover.



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I have TSP 1 3/4 headers and they are nice quality. They don't leak at the head like the Hookers that i has previously.
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Originally Posted by JGKadell
I just had SE 1⅞ headers and y installed on my car. The y pipe fits terribly on the driver side. Right against the floor pan by the transmission crossover.


Is that with Speed Engineering's Y pipe?

My 1 7/8 SE headers on my 02 Z28 had a similar issue. Its was the angle of the SE header primary that caused the issue on my car. We used my old Kook's Y pipe and didn't really see how the SE Y pipe could have had good fitment due to header collector angle.
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I think over the years both TSP and SE have tweaked their header designs. I know for certain the TSP catted Y pip was redesigned and the new one is much nicer.
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Hello everybody I’m new and have been looking into these two headers but from reading about here in the forums people are saying SE doesn’t ship to California at all ? Nobody in CA has a way to purchase their products ? I was very interested in their complete system
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Originally Posted by 02ws6kid
Hello everybody I’m new and have been looking into these two headers but from reading about here in the forums people are saying SE doesn’t ship to California at all ? Nobody in CA has a way to purchase their products ? I was very interested in their complete system
Basically any vehicle newer than 1975 can't have long tubes and be smog legal. That's the jist of it....
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Basically any vehicle newer than 1975 can't have long tubes and be smog legal. That's the jist of it....
yes, I am familiar with the CA smog laws however do not understand why I can purchase other brand headers and have them shipped to me in CA but not SE brand. Not upset at speed engineering just wish I could buy their products.
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Originally Posted by 02ws6kid
yes, I am familiar with the CA smog laws however do not understand why I can purchase other brand headers and have them shipped to me in CA but not SE brand. Not upset at speed engineering just wish I could buy their products.
Speed Engineering probably isn't willing to RISK ending up on the wrong side of a big CARB fine.

https://wnationwide-online-retailer-jegs-pays-1.7-million-settle-case-selling-illegal-auto-parts

I'm surprised any retailer would ship any sort of performance parts to California after what happened to Jegs.

Check the site market place sooner or later what you're looking for will probably show up.
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Wow I was unaware about what happened to jegs that’s really unfortunate and seems unfair.

It’s not jegs fault someone installs parts on the vehicle and uses it on the street. This shouldn’t impact the company making/selling the parts.

Thank you for sharing, hopefully things change in the future
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Speed Engineering probably isn't willing to RISK ending up on the wrong side of a big CARB fine.

https://wnationwide-online-retailer-jegs-pays-1.7-million-settle-case-selling-illegal-auto-parts

I'm surprised any retailer would ship any sort of performance parts to California after what happened to Jegs.

Check the site market place sooner or later what you're looking for will probably show up.
Wow, I did not realize this, California is ridiculous! Feel bad for Jegs and the people in California trying to enjoy the car performance world. What crazy times we live in...
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Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever
Wow, I did not realize this, California is ridiculous! Feel bad for Jegs and the people in California trying to enjoy the car performance world. What crazy times we live in...
yes here in California they are trying to get rid of us that modify street cars even those who keep it on the track.
I like that summit gives you the option to say the parts being ordered are for a smog exempt vehicle or non street registered vehicle.
For example in relation to the headers from this forum, upon purchasing who’s to say that even though the product is designed for ls1 vehicles how do they know that I’m not putting a ls1 into a 67 firebird swap ? No legal/smog issues there


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