TSP ORY fitment questions
Well a new set of ARH headers may still result in the same issue. A header collector bent upward will definately cause and issue so the question is what is causing it? Header itself or position of the engine?
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This shot shows the angles of the piping. It literally wont slide on any farther than this due to the angles each pipe is at.
I placed a straight edge inside the collector. The top silver edge gives an idea of the direction the collector points and it is literally right at the floor brace. This one, for me, is what really drove home the fact that something is way off.
Tight against the floor brace.
Oil pan to k-member gap. I didnt get a before measurement. But, I eyeballed it and it looks exactly the same as it did before with the stock mounts.
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Finally got my new headers and Y pipe in today. They sent me 1-7/8 instead of the 1-3/4 I originally ordered. Going on week four now and thus far I am not impressed and still have my car in pieces.
my 1 7/8 TSP HEADERS fit great So did the ORY till i went with my Moser m9 with long tq arm.. I had to adjust it where is ran extremely low on the driver side to clear my d/s loop and long tq arm... Not a big fan of how the collector drops down to a 2.5 inch mege tho.. im removing mine due to flow restrictions... Note to the OP. IF U KEEP EVERYTHING LOOSE U HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF ADJUSTMENT TO FIX UR CLEARANCE ISSUES. JUST TAKES A LIL BIT A MANEUVERING. all in all for the price u really cant complain.I ALSO HIGHLY RECCOMEND GETTING THOSE HEADERS CERAMIC COATED TO HELP WITH THE DISCOLORATION FROM EXHAUST Heat. The ceramic coating also greatly reduces heat in the engine bay and cools down to the touch in a matter of 10 minues...
FYI my headers fit with solid mounts from midwest chassis if anyone is wondoring
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I think what you said about keeping everything loose and THEN adjusting all clearances is the common sense way to go no matter whose system is involved. But common sense ain't all that common.... lol
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Verdad Gallardo i tried the Mwc d/s loop that went over the tq arm but it wouldnt clear going over the tq arm. i had to have someone fab this up to work .. with the Moser M9 kit that tq arm gets in the way with all d/s loops ive attempted.There is literally no room on the drivers side of the tq arm to get anything to go over the top instead of underneath but regardless im not running a y anymore . going 18" extentions with bullets off the collector so this design actually suits my needs. if i had to do it again i would of went with the MWC short torque arm... when u start mismatching parts from different companies ur bound to run into fitment issues
ALL I CAN SAY IS IM NEVER DEALING WITH MOSER EVER AGAIN.. THEY FUCKED **** UP FROM NOT WELDING ON MY SWAY BAR MOUNTS LIKE I ASKED FOR TO THEM SENDING ME THE WRONG WHEEL STUDS LOL.. WHEN I CONTACTED MOSER BOUT THESE ISSUES ALL I GOT FROM THE GUY AT MOSER IS "I DONT KNOW" I WAS LATER TOLD BY ANOTHER MOSER EMPLYEE THAT THE PERSON I ORDERED EVERYTHING FROM WAS NEW TO THE COMPANY....
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eveyone should know not to tighten anything up till everything fits properly.. or at least they should know thiss lol
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I couldn’t even get the drivers section of the Y to slide on the header collector because of the angles. Nothing would meet up right. I’m still trying to get a new header/ORY set in my hands to try. TSP thinks my drivers side header was made wrong; bumped while in the jig.
u might of just got a badly made header tbh...
i tried the Mwc d/s loop that went over the tq arm but it wouldnt clear going over the tq arm. i had to have someone fab this up to work .. with the Moser M9 kit that tq arm gets in the way with all d/s loops ive attempted.There is literally no room on the drivers side of the tq arm to get anything to go over the top instead of underneath but regardless im not running a y anymore . going 18" extentions with bullets off the collector so this design actually suits my needs. if i had to do it again i would of went with the MWC short torque arm... when u start mismatching parts from different companies ur bound to run into fitment issues
ALL I CAN SAY IS IM NEVER DEALING WITH MOSER EVER AGAIN.. THEY FUCKED **** UP FROM NOT WELDING ON MY SWAY BAR MOUNTS LIKE I ASKED FOR TO THEM SENDING ME THE WRONG WHEEL STUDS LOL.. WHEN I CONTACTED MOSER BOUT THESE ISSUES ALL I GOT FROM THE GUY AT MOSER IS "I DONT KNOW" I WAS LATER TOLD BY ANOTHER MOSER EMPLYEE THAT THE PERSON I ORDERED EVERYTHING FROM WAS NEW TO THE COMPANY....
ALL I CAN SAY IS IM NEVER DEALING WITH MOSER EVER AGAIN.. THEY FUCKED **** UP FROM NOT WELDING ON MY SWAY BAR MOUNTS LIKE I ASKED FOR TO THEM SENDING ME THE WRONG WHEEL STUDS LOL.. WHEN I CONTACTED MOSER BOUT THESE ISSUES ALL I GOT FROM THE GUY AT MOSER IS "I DONT KNOW" I WAS LATER TOLD BY ANOTHER MOSER EMPLYEE THAT THE PERSON I ORDERED EVERYTHING FROM WAS NEW TO THE COMPANY....
well.......i had the TSP headers and the Y fit like **** on the drivers side.....the muff shop ended up beating the pipe down to half the diameter to make it fit
fast forward i got some kooks headers to replace the TSPs and gave the TSPs to my son.....he gets the new stainless Y ( mine was the old steel version ) and guess what ??? the new stainless version fits like **** still.....it appears the header on the drivers side has a upward tilt at the collector driving the pipe into the floorpan....and yes ....he does have poly MM.....seems whoever designed the headers did so with saggy rubber MM ....so firming up the MM raises the engine a hair
my .02....the second time around.....
fast forward i got some kooks headers to replace the TSPs and gave the TSPs to my son.....he gets the new stainless Y ( mine was the old steel version ) and guess what ??? the new stainless version fits like **** still.....it appears the header on the drivers side has a upward tilt at the collector driving the pipe into the floorpan....and yes ....he does have poly MM.....seems whoever designed the headers did so with saggy rubber MM ....so firming up the MM raises the engine a hair
my .02....the second time around.....
I used to have pacesetters and a stainless steel tsp catless y pipe. I had a shop weld it in place I just told them I didn’t want it to be hitting the floor board. They did a good job because I never had an issue besides scrapping it a little in driveways here and there. The car had bmr springs as well as poly motor mounts and a poly trans mount.
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Still don’t fit. Im wondering if I need to yank the poly mounts and buy new rubbers. That’s 2 sets of headers that we’re like this and the only thing I have changed is those motor mounts.
Any ideas guys??? Would it honestly hurt to go back to a new set of rubbers?
Any ideas guys??? Would it honestly hurt to go back to a new set of rubbers?
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