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Old 11-14-2018, 12:44 PM
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Fellas is know there used to be a tab with a breakdown of ls1 diffrences by the years. I searched but cant find it. I'm looking for info on the 98 model f-body. I recall a difference in the heads, I belive they were center bolt vs perimeter. Any setbacks to this set up? Any other negative aspects, please let me know. Set to meet a guy in a few hours with a decent mile, clean title 1998 Z28, A4.
Old 11-14-2018, 01:36 PM
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I recently bought a stock 98 TA and looked into this a bit.. I'm sure there's some more differences but these were what mattered to me before my purchase:

98's have different valve covers / heads with each ignition coil mounted individually instead of on a bracket. 98's come stock with EGR and AIR assemblies, as well as LS1 intakes instead of the LS6 intakes found on 01-02's. 98's also have steel gas tanks which are a bit smaller than the plastic tanks on 99+. 98's also have an older pcm which I heard is more difficult to tune in some ways. My tuner had no problems with mine. They say the heads on the 98 don't flow as well and the rod bolts can't handle higher revs as well as the 99+ cars.

However 98's have upsides too. The sail panels on most 98 cars do not suffer from the bubbling problem the 99+ cars exhibit, also its anecdotal but the 98 ta door panels seem to be less prone to developing cracks. The 98 cam is also a bit more aggressive.

If you plan to do bolt ons or upgrade heads and cam I see no reason to shy away from a 98. All of the areas the 98's lack can be fixed pretty easily in my opinion.

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No drawbacks to the perimeter setup itself. No cool aftermarket valve covers though. Later on when you get some good 243 heads that issue will negate itself
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Much appreciated fellas! Just returning from overseas duty. A little rusty, been stuck in asia since 2012. I have a set of 243s sitting on the shelf at my buddy's place. With 81K miles, clean Carfax and looks to be in great condition, I may be about to get steal!
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Welcome back, and thank you for serving our country! Go for the deal!
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Good luck on the deal. I hope it's what you're looking for. The difference between a 98 and a 99 is so small that it shouldn't scare you off at all. If I bought a 98 my roof and hatch wouldn't have bubbles lol.
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Thank you brother!
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It looks like the car will need an AC compressor and possibly driver side window motor. the window seems to be off track. Asking $4500 obo
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First of all thank you for your service!

As for the car, just be aware that depending on how the compressor failed, it may also need a new condenser and drier too. Not to mention the possible evac and certain refill of refrigerant. AC work is pretty simple with s few special tools and you can find replacement parts online at decent prices so don’t let that scare you away. In fact, this would be a good negotiation point. Good luck!
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Aren't 98s more prone to spinning Rod Bearings as well ?
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Originally Posted by madmike9396
Aren't 98s more prone to spinning Rod Bearings as well ?
That's the rumor..... I spin mine to 7100 tho.
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Thanks fellas, its a pleasure to serve, I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world! Spinning Rod bearings? More details please....
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Originally Posted by JeaneGrae
Thanks fellas, its a pleasure to serve, I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world! Spinning Rod bearings? More details please....
Spun bearing is when the bearing wears out or actually spins in the journal. The said weaker rod bolts would stretch which would cause tighter clearances at higher rpms which would cause contact and possibly actually cause the bearing to spin in the journal and wear out asap causing slop. When you hear a rod knock it is slop between the bearings and crank that smack with excessive clearance.

Hope that made sense, couple drinks in......
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Originally Posted by 98CayenneT/A
That's the rumor..... I spin mine to 7100 tho.
You spin your stock bottom end 98 deal to 7100 rpm?
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Originally Posted by SlasherVRGR
You spin your stock bottom end 98 deal to 7100 rpm?
Correct, 7100 and some change.


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