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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 07:51 PM
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with my empty engine bay now i should probably clearance my firewall if needed, i cant find what is needed to fit this in my 2000 camaro....

1)i need to clearance my ls1 pump correct? just like the 102?

2) im aware it accepts all stock ls7 rails and injectors

3)do i need to massage the firewall and if so where at?

4) am i missing anything?
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Bottom may need clearance a bit like the ls6 intake

No messaging firewall

I run Ls2 rails with Ev1 injectors with spacers for the rail to sit higher
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 08:46 PM
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I have the FAST LS2 OEM style fuel rail with EV1 enjectors and used spacers I picked up from Home Depot due to the fuel rail sitting higher. No clearance work to anything in the engine bay but there's plenty to do away with if a dedicated strip car.
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Bottom may need clearance a bit like the ls6 intake

No messaging firewall

I run Ls2 rails with Ev1 injectors with spacers for the rail to sit higher
any idea how close it was? its odd the fast 102 needs massaging of the firewall but not the msd unless this is a some cars do some cars dont odd thing
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
any idea how close it was? its odd the fast 102 needs massaging of the firewall but not the msd unless this is a some cars do some cars dont odd thing
I have well over a inch
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any idea how close it was? its odd the fast 102 needs massaging of the firewall but not the msd unless this is a some cars do some cars dont odd thing
No massaging of the firewall for my fast 102 install. Only had to grind down the water pump.
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Originally Posted by z-camaro
No massaging of the firewall for my fast 102 install. Only had to grind down the water pump.
I didn't even have to do that with the FAST 102 intake.
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confirming that we will need to grind the water pump right? or just buy a new ls2 correct? does the ls2 pump sit like the ls1 pump....aka can i use my fbody accessories?

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confirming that we will need to grind the water pump right? or just buy a new ls2 correct? does the ls2 pump sit like the ls1 pump....aka can i use my fbody accessories?
I purchased an AC Delco water pump for an 01 Camaro and didn't have to grind on it to clear the FAST LSXR intake. I've heard of people having to do it so just just check for clearance.
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
I purchased an AC Delco water pump for an 01 Camaro and didn't have to grind on it to clear the FAST LSXR intake. I've heard of people having to do it so just just check for clearance.
geese it crazy the variances in our cars.
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I just took a saw zall and cut that whole ear off the pump, including where the bolt goes. With the msd there is zero chance of it clearing the ls1 water pump.
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there is one clearanced in the classifieds i may pick up.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:30 PM
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do the ls7 intakes fit any better/than the ls1 versions? are they larger or anything? i should have mentioned that
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Fwiw, I did not have clearance issues. But there are two distinctions:

1. My old 220 heads on the 346 had raised ports, so manifold sat higher.

2. Meziere ewp.

After the ls7 swap I put the Ls1 mexiere back on it, and zero issues with stock ls7 intake or holley sniper.
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im grabbing that clearanced one in the classifieds, better safe then sorry, but ima message tony and ask

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I have the LS7 version, I did not have any clearance issues with it. I did buy a new LS2 style w/p to replace my OEM pump when I did the swap. I'm also running LS7 rails with LS3/7 style (EV6?) injectors.

Word of advice, search for Tony Mamo's thoughts about torquing the bolts - I had issues with them backing out, his method seems to work a little better. Also don't use loctite that is way old as it separates...learned that lesson the hard way.
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Originally Posted by NHRATA01
I have the LS7 version, I did not have any clearance issues with it. I did buy a new LS2 style w/p to replace my OEM pump when I did the swap. I'm also running LS7 rails with LS3/7 style (EV6?) injectors.

Word of advice, search for Tony Mamo's thoughts about torquing the bolts - I had issues with them backing out, his method seems to work a little better. Also don't use loctite that is way old as it separates...learned that lesson the hard way.
definitely. The first step was like 48 in lbs, and I had to retorque it a zillion times before I finally got to where the first bolt was still 48 after the last bolt was tightened up. Same problem on the fast102 though
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I had a 92mm fast and now going to MSD intake, what do I got to worry about? See pic



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The top of the water pump may be an issue but until you get the manifold who knows. I do have a question about your setup though. What are you doing for knock sensors?
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