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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 01:40 PM
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Help I have a 77 el camino with a rebuilt lq9 / 799 heads / and stage 3 cam/ ls6 intake

my problem is the fuel coming to the engine has air foam in the line

she will start briefly than die. have changed the wire harness, changed the computer , changed engine was 5.3 same problem
replaced fuel pump twice injectors 3 times etc
if I squirt starting fluid in intake it will run for a few seconds
put fuel pressure gauge have 57 # pressure when I blead off the fuel from the gauge its white with air
pushing on the shrader valve foamy gas comes out.
the pump is external

changed pump and put a gas line straight into the gas can........same thing starts briefly then dies

don't know where to go or what to do
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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 04:41 PM
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It sounds like a leak in the suction side of the fuel pump. As a test can you run a temporary line from a gas can to the suction side of your fuel pump and see if the problem comes up?
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Old Aug 7, 2022 | 09:23 PM
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Its sucking air between the pump and tank. This used to be common in the old mechanical carb days.. often mistaken for vapor lock.
It can also be because your pump is over working and cavitating the fuel. which WILL happen more often on non return systems.
If your pump is > about 200 LPH,, there's a good chance.. When the over pressure relief opens its recirculating inside the pump overheating the fuel and causing it to out-gas violently.



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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 02:31 AM
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Probably not the problem but I didn't see it mentioned, You did have VATS removed from the computer didn't you?
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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 12:57 PM
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yes the ecm was flashed for standalone use both of them were
have tried putting a hose from the pump straight into a gas can same problem no difference
as for the pump being too big making for cavitating could be the problem
using a walbro gsl 392 pump
the problem is as soon as I start the cold engine it stops running even with the key still on start
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NoGo
It sounds like a leak in the suction side of the fuel pump. As a test can you run a temporary line from a gas can to the suction side of your fuel pump and see if the problem comes up?
"changed pump and put a gas line straight into the gas can........same thing starts briefly then dies"
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Originally Posted by ronjax
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changed pump and put a gas line straight into the gas can.....
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What did the fuel stream from RETURN LINE look like ?
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 09:32 PM
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are you running a return style fuel system?
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