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What does 2022 have to do with anything? Companies have been doing this for decades.

 

What, lying?
Have a look around, some speed shops, even they say these are made in USA. What's a person think when it arrives with made in china on the box...
How does a person send a product out like that....

I'm 50 freaking years old and I never been told something was made in the USA and it had been labeled otherwise. Yea, I know companies have moved to china and other places and when I buy their product I know it at that time.

What does 2022 have to do with it? Well, I guess people don't care anymore, dignity and ethics are gone, and if you say anything about it you're the bad guy. I'm SO, SO SORRY I brought it up.

 

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but in fairness that video looks to have been posted in February of 2019. I wonder how old that "made in china" label is? Perhaps the outsourcing occurred at some point after the video was produced? But if so, then it's time for them to take the video down or edit it.

I just received a couple parts for my Nova this week, from Trim Parts in OH. It seems that they are now part of a parent company called RPUI (Restoration Parts Unlimited, Inc), this was not the case last time I ordered from them. I was worried about possible china outsourcing and/or other quality issues related to the restructuring. Trim Parts has always been a benchmark of quality in the restoration industry with much of their product line being produced on original GM tooling and made here in the US; I have never been disappointed in their products. Good news is that the items showed up with "Proudly made in USA" labels and the quality was as excellent as I've always come to expect from Trim Parts.

If it says "made in USA" it sure as hell better be.

 

I worked at WalMart while in high school for a couple years. This was back when their slogan was “selling products made in the USA”. They had the slogan written all over their stores. I can’t tell you guys how many trucks came into the receiving department, and the packing lists were hand written in Chinese. This was back before the internet, and computers were still a joke. I kept one of the lists in my possession for years because I was amazed at the neatness of the Chinamans penmanship skills, and the fact that the whole “selling made in the USA products” thing was a big lie. I learned two things from that job tenure that I still think about almost daily. 1. I should have kept my WalMart stock. 2. Never believe the “made in the USA” crap. Very little is made in the USA, and if it truly is, you’ll immediately realize it from the price. If you don’t believe me, shop for nice furniture, and compare its pricing to where it’s made.

 

It's not always 'you get what you pay for'
What I posted above is the offer to buy that other brand for $11 cheaper a piece, If I had done that I assume it would have came in a plain box with a made in china sticker but the same invoice inside. Then I would have thought 'yep chinese knock off cherry bombs, oh well' But they would be the exact same muffler.
I only got these because they aren't just the same chambered welded muffler, but they have that angled piece inside that has shown to make more power, I showed above that the alternative $31 muffler has that same feature listed.

I don't care that much, really. I have a 92mm ebay throttle body that looks Exactly like the one a guy I work with has, but he paid $450 for his. I forgot the brand of his, but it is exact. Even the Holley Sniper is exact as the $56 chinese one I have that says made in china. It works great.

Anyway I checked out some stuff today while picking up some exhaust hangers.

Made in USA (I guess)

 

Just keep in mind that all the big box stores drove US companies to out source to Asia. In the 80-90's the big box stores beat on their suppliers so much price wise the suppliers had no choice to out source to Asia to stay in business. As the first big box supplier folded and went to Asia the others had no choice but to follow.
I worked for a US manufacturing company for 36 years. At every trade show each year there was no end to the third country's folks wanting us to out source our machine shop work to them. Across the board I took great pleasure in telling them to take a hike.
Side note. A German company that we worked with and made really good stuff sold a machine to a business in Asia. Within a year the Asia company was knocking it off. Asia doesn't care about US/International patents.

 

I did some research and guess what I found? There are two companies, One is CherrybombUSA and the other is just CherryBomb .... CherryBombUSA is made in America and CherryBomb apparently is not.
You bought from CherryBomb.com not CherryBombUSA.Com according to the part number.

 

Two different companies in the same building?
Same address.

 

Same addess and a picture says 1,000..I recently purchased a used Leupold Vari-X III rifle scope from Ebay. All of the new ones you see are from China now and I knew this one was in fact Made in U.S.A. It really is hard to get away from products made in China when companies are outsourcing their products to be made on the cheap and not passing those savings onto the consumer. BS if you ask me.

 

Sad for my country, to answer the rhetorical question.

Until (and maybe never in my lifetime) this country feels the suffering and trials that once made us great, things will continue to spiral downward from a spiritual, cultural and economic standpoint.

God bless you all.

Merry Christmas!

 

How does this make me feel? Picture worth 1000 words...




We have the issues we have because we put the wrong folks in office over and over again.

 

In our defense it's not like we have good choices to start with but if we ever lose our 2nd Amendment we're defeated.Some food for thought about how hunters help keep America safe: Keep in mind that there's still many of us that do not hunt and own a firearm.

1. If you add up all the hunters with firearms in the US, America has the world’s largest army/militia.
2. A blogger once added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion:
3. There were over 500,000 hunters this season in the state of Minnesota.
4. There were over 600,000 sold in the state of Wisconsin.
5. Over the last several months, Wisconsin’s hunters would be equal to the eighth largest army in the world.
6. More men under arms than in Iran.
7. More than in France, England and Germany combined.
8. These men were deployed to the woods of a single American state to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed.
9. That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan’s 700,000 hunters.
10. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that:
11. The hunters of those five states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. The number of Hunters in the state of Texas would be the largest standing army in the world by itself at 1.3 million armed hunters.
12. The total number of armed American hunters who know how to use their rifles was 36.4 million in 2017. With those kinds of numbers, America will forever be safe from foreign invasion in large part due to hunters.

 

^^^^^^^ VERY well stated! AND thank you!!

 

Well I just changed the mufflers out and had time to think. I've been thinking a lot lately and often wondering if I feel the way I feel because I'm getting older, or because the world has changed in the past three years. I've never searched for political topics before I just kept up with newspaper headlines or whatever. But since this bs happened three years ago I've been seeking information, even still I recently stopped because it causes anger. Just hearing what's going on and we don't have the ***** to do anything about it. Like the ukraine flag flying next to ours, I'd like to drive there and burn the f****g thing down.

But other than that I think of my job. No one wants to work anymore. I'm in a position where I can choose to work with whoever I want so I picked this 27 year old guy. He won't buy decent tools he just uses and ruins mine, he won't do anything unless I tell him to, plus a lot more, but I chose him because he doesn't complain and whine like most of the others. EDIT... actually when I was 20 guys in their late 20's were in charge of jobs already.

When I was 20 I felt awkward if I wasn't doing my part, and if I didn't know what to do or how to do things. These people don't seem to care, and we can't find anyone who does.

So whats this have to do with this thread? What if you put these people in a muffler factory, I can't imagine. What are work ethics like in china? We're all human. Really the sticker is the only evidence that these mufflers were made in china. Unlike in the early 80's I still have tools I bought at Kmart that were made in china. It's very obvious, very poor quality.

Thats why I said earlier 'welcome to 2022' , Americans who are physically capable don't want to work. Sure it seems like a good idea to feed the American worker, but are they working?
Why does American made cost so much because the American work ethic I see isn't worth ****.

It wasn't like this when I was younger and thats something I never heard my parents or grand parents ever say. We busted our asses to get to where we are.

I'm not a professional writer so I apologize if my thoughts are all over the place.

 

Hello, A couple of weeks ago I bought a new coffee maker.
On the bottom of the box it has this printed.
" Made in PRC under license from Mueller Austria"
I thought great, something not made in China but when I got home I realized.......PRC = Red China!

 

PRC = Peoples Republic of China

 

...So that's where PRC heads come from..

 

They used to come from my friend's shop, actually, then to whomever. Not sure where the castings are made. Liberty? There aren't many U.S. based foundries left.

 

That's what it looks like, Look at Holley, The group that owns them has slowly bought up dozens of aftermarket companies. The part you bought is being sold under a slightly different name and different part numbers and they don't claim to be made in the USA. The other website does claim to be made in the USA and they have different part numbers. Slightly underhanded but probably no different than Fast and many other that simply have their name put on a cheap chinese throttle body and sell it at 3x times the price that you can buy the same exact throttle body from E-bay.